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Message: <blockquote data-quote="3catcircus" data-source="post: 1505885" data-attributes="member: 16077">I've been playing D&D in various forms since the early 80's.  While I like the d20 incarnation, and think it improves on 2e AD&D by returning the Barbarian, Assassin, etc., I find that there is some vital essence missing from it that previous versions had - it feels too assembly-line in nature.  Given my druthers, I'd choose to play the D&D Cyclopedia version of OD&D.That said, I do like Spycraft - I think AEG did it right.  I don't wanna touch d20 Modern with a 10' pole - too much like "D&D with guns and gadgets."  If I wanted that kind of feel, I'd play Shadowrun, Call of Cthulhu Delta Green/Nocturnum, Dark Conspiracy, or Spycraft's Shadowforce Archer - especially since I've already made the investment in those games and haven't bought a single d20 Modern book.I think part of my dislike for d20 is the glut of *bad* d20 products on the market.  Even WoTC's own products have tended to not be that good - Savage Species, Epic Level Handbook, etc. come to mind.  Not to mention the trashing of some Forgotten Realms canon with the publishing of FRCS and follow-on products (FR cosmology, Shadovar, etc.)  I especially dislike the feeling that many of the WoTC books seem to reproduce feats, spells, etc. in multiple books, which seems like a filler.  For example - the spell Nybor's Gentle Reminder appears in Magic of Faerun, *and* Unapproachable East, *and* Player's Guide to Faerun.  Howzabout simply publishing the corrections in a web errata rather than taking up space in a hardcover book that costs $30+?</blockquote>

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