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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 1506156" data-attributes="member: 172">True, but AFIAC, 2e itself was more painful. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Funny looking back how hindsight is 20/20. I look at my houserules to keep my 2e game tooling along. I consider that I have 2 more kids now and think to myself, there is no way I would have been able to keep that much support up.So yeah, conversion was a pain for me from 2e. But IMO, some of the big changes really need to happen, and resulted in what I feel is a much more playable game.Have I ever told you the story about how I wasn't going to update to 3e until I got the MM...?</blockquote>