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<blockquote data-quote="Cergorach" data-source="post: 1770659" data-attributes="member: 725">Actually i think your right, a simple D20 Modern conversion would not give us the SR feel at all, it would take a lot of tweaks. Actually, Spycraft would be a lot better for D20 SR then D20 Modern would.The one thing i think your wrong about is that lethal = good. I've been a DM for a long time, DMing both SR (in it's last two incarnations) and D&amp;D, and the one thing i've learned is that no player is happy when their character dies in a stupid situation (especially when there's no resurrection). The SR system itself does not accept 'mistakes', get to close to that punk and your dead meat, i find this a problem because it doesn't allow the player to learn from his/her mistakes. Even the simple act of discharging a gun is hazardous for your health (throwing all ones while shooting actually killed a character) while it might be funny in the first instance, the look on the player's face tells me otherwise.I've had D&amp;D players tell me how kewl it was when their characters died, but never while playing russion roulette...</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cergorach, post: 1770659, member: 725"] Actually i think your right, a simple D20 Modern conversion would not give us the SR feel at all, it would take a lot of tweaks. Actually, Spycraft would be a lot better for D20 SR then D20 Modern would. The one thing i think your wrong about is that lethal = good. I've been a DM for a long time, DMing both SR (in it's last two incarnations) and D&D, and the one thing i've learned is that no player is happy when their character dies in a stupid situation (especially when there's no resurrection). The SR system itself does not accept 'mistakes', get to close to that punk and your dead meat, i find this a problem because it doesn't allow the player to learn from his/her mistakes. Even the simple act of discharging a gun is hazardous for your health (throwing all ones while shooting actually killed a character) while it might be funny in the first instance, the look on the player's face tells me otherwise. I've had D&D players tell me how kewl it was when their characters died, but never while playing russion roulette... [/QUOTE]

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