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<blockquote data-quote="wingsandsword" data-source="post: 3004443" data-attributes="member: 14159">Leia on Endor at the bunker entrance?&nbsp; She was hit and incapacitated by a single shot out of nowhere, she was dropped, but not out for good.&nbsp; I've always used that as a good example of a critical hit, with a fairly low damage roll, in WP/VP.Luke on Tatooine fighting the Sand People?&nbsp; They got one good hit on him and he was out, and Obi-Wan had to use the Force to heal him.Padme on Mustafar?&nbsp; This is the same woman who only 3 years ago was fighting the entire arena as well, or better, than Anakin and Obi-Wan, but is mortally wounded by one attack by Vader.&nbsp; Seems like that could be represented with a critical hit by Vader there.Also, one thing bothers me about consolidating the Force Adept into other classes is why not just make Jedi Guardians into Soldiers who buy Use Force and have Lightsaber proficiency then?&nbsp; Or Jedi Consulars be Nobles who do the same then?&nbsp; Why do you only have a force-using base class if you are a Jedi, instead of being an Ithorian Nature Priest, a Jensaraai, a Witch of Dathomir, a Baran-Do Sage, a Killian Ranger, a Krath, or any one of dozens of force-traditions throughout the galaxy.On the WotC boards, Gary Sarli is insisting that things like Control, Sense and Alter aren't gone, they just aren't feats anymore.&nbsp; It makes me wonder how is Use Force not too powerful if it's only one skill (when consolidating into 4 skills as an optional rule he proposed about a year ago was seen as very powerful), it also makes me wonder what Control, Sense, and Alter will be now.&nbsp; If they were class features of the Jedi, that kind of shoots down the &quot;any class can be a Force Adept&quot; theory.&nbsp; Do you get them with certain number of ranks in Use Force?&nbsp; How do you represent characters like Corran Horn, or the Fallanassi, who have specific limitations in their ability to use the Force, like being unable to perform telekinetic actions?&nbsp; The people involved in the making of this game do have very good reputations within Star Wars gaming, but the early word seems like something to make us wary.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="wingsandsword, post: 3004443, member: 14159"] Leia on Endor at the bunker entrance? She was hit and incapacitated by a single shot out of nowhere, she was dropped, but not out for good. I've always used that as a good example of a critical hit, with a fairly low damage roll, in WP/VP. Luke on Tatooine fighting the Sand People? They got one good hit on him and he was out, and Obi-Wan had to use the Force to heal him. Padme on Mustafar? This is the same woman who only 3 years ago was fighting the entire arena as well, or better, than Anakin and Obi-Wan, but is mortally wounded by one attack by Vader. Seems like that could be represented with a critical hit by Vader there. Also, one thing bothers me about consolidating the Force Adept into other classes is why not just make Jedi Guardians into Soldiers who buy Use Force and have Lightsaber proficiency then? Or Jedi Consulars be Nobles who do the same then? Why do you only have a force-using base class if you are a Jedi, instead of being an Ithorian Nature Priest, a Jensaraai, a Witch of Dathomir, a Baran-Do Sage, a Killian Ranger, a Krath, or any one of dozens of force-traditions throughout the galaxy. On the WotC boards, Gary Sarli is insisting that things like Control, Sense and Alter aren't gone, they just aren't feats anymore. It makes me wonder how is Use Force not too powerful if it's only one skill (when consolidating into 4 skills as an optional rule he proposed about a year ago was seen as very powerful), it also makes me wonder what Control, Sense, and Alter will be now. If they were class features of the Jedi, that kind of shoots down the "any class can be a Force Adept" theory. Do you get them with certain number of ranks in Use Force? How do you represent characters like Corran Horn, or the Fallanassi, who have specific limitations in their ability to use the Force, like being unable to perform telekinetic actions? The people involved in the making of this game do have very good reputations within Star Wars gaming, but the early word seems like something to make us wary. [/QUOTE]

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