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<blockquote data-quote="Vigilance" data-source="post: 3019750" data-attributes="member: 4275"><p>Right, but whatever your feelings about HP in general and likes or dislikes for the VP/WP system, it was a bad fit for Star Wars, so it's very good that it's going away.</p><p></p><p>When was the last time a main character was dropped by a mook in ANY piece of Star Wars fiction? </p><p></p><p>Random Stormtrooper knocks Han out of the fight with a lucky shot.</p><p></p><p>It just doesn't happen. At least, not in the fiction it doesn't. There's one example I can really think of and that's Leia getting shot in ROTJ. So in all the comics and movies and novels I've read, I can recall one example of it happening. </p><p></p><p>With the VP/WP system, it happened in SW games I have ran ALL THE TIME. And not just knocked out or seriously injured. "You're running across the tarmac toward your freighter, Stormtroopers firing away *roll roll roll* ouch! Player 2, your character's head disappears in a fine mist of blaster fire and drops to the tarmac, dead".</p><p></p><p>It happened with a fair amount of regularity, which you'd expect, because VP/WP is MORE gritty than HP.</p><p></p><p>Which is, again, fine and all, I have used VP in military games to great effect. But it's a singularly bad fit for SW. </p><p></p><p>Also, in Moridin's post he said not to think in terms of D&D HP and not even REALLY to think in terms of d20M HP. So maybe they're going to give us something new?</p><p></p><p>In conclusion, too early to tell how MUCH of an improvement this will be over VP/WP, but *anything* would be closer to the feel of the movies than WP to me. </p><p></p><p>Chuck</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vigilance, post: 3019750, member: 4275"] Right, but whatever your feelings about HP in general and likes or dislikes for the VP/WP system, it was a bad fit for Star Wars, so it's very good that it's going away. When was the last time a main character was dropped by a mook in ANY piece of Star Wars fiction? Random Stormtrooper knocks Han out of the fight with a lucky shot. It just doesn't happen. At least, not in the fiction it doesn't. There's one example I can really think of and that's Leia getting shot in ROTJ. So in all the comics and movies and novels I've read, I can recall one example of it happening. With the VP/WP system, it happened in SW games I have ran ALL THE TIME. And not just knocked out or seriously injured. "You're running across the tarmac toward your freighter, Stormtroopers firing away *roll roll roll* ouch! Player 2, your character's head disappears in a fine mist of blaster fire and drops to the tarmac, dead". It happened with a fair amount of regularity, which you'd expect, because VP/WP is MORE gritty than HP. Which is, again, fine and all, I have used VP in military games to great effect. But it's a singularly bad fit for SW. Also, in Moridin's post he said not to think in terms of D&D HP and not even REALLY to think in terms of d20M HP. So maybe they're going to give us something new? In conclusion, too early to tell how MUCH of an improvement this will be over VP/WP, but *anything* would be closer to the feel of the movies than WP to me. Chuck [/QUOTE]
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