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<blockquote data-quote="C. Baize" data-source="post: 2681343" data-attributes="member: 4571"><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> </p><p></p><p>If I had a really good selling product, I'm not saying I wouldn't grandstand. Nor did I say there was anything inherently <em>wrong</em> with grandstanding. But if someone's shouting on a corner, it's okay to recognize that they're shouting on the corner rather than softly whispering down the block, ya know? I mean... I worked for General Nutrition Centers, that doesn't mean I know how much Ginseng they'll sell this year. Having worked at WotC doesn't automagically make one an expert in all fields of the RPG industry. I'm not particularly awed by "I worked at WotC... buy my stuff and don't even consider disagreeing with me about anything RPG related!" (oh, come on, get that sour look off your face... we've all seen it from different ex-WotC folks at one time or another, in one form or another). And I can't necessarily blame them for playing that card... if I worked at WotC as a freakin' janitor, I'd probably play the same card. "I worked at WotC! I are a publisher gawd! Buy my stuff!" (oh, and I still buy product from some of the ex-WotC folks who played that card, especially early on, it's just something that makes me chuckle and move on. I'm not really knocking them for it, just calling it like I see it, as I say... I would do the same thing)</p><p>I honestly don't have a problem with publishers grandstanding, it's a decent marketing tool. Being one of those people, however, who couldn't really care less about M&M, and not having a competing product (or any product, for that matter) on the market at all... I have no vested interest here. I think D20 Super Heroes will outsell pretty much any 3rd party product based on WotC's name power, alone. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Err... what? </p><p>Tell me they don't think the Marvel Super Heroes FASERIP system was D6... </p><p>Please... </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It'd be a fun little bet. </p><p>But all in all, it doesn't really matter. As long as both books profit, then they're both successful. And if company A gets theirs... it shouldn't matter to their loyal adherents if company B gets theirs, too. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I dunno about Cyberscape... but B&C: Cybernetics rocks. </p><p>As for it having synergy with B&V... THAT would be cool. I hadn't even considered that aspect. That would make it MUCH more useful in my book, and in my game.</p><p></p><p>Honestly, though... I suspect it'll be its own take. It might have similarities with which one could try to tie it to M&M, or 4CTF, or B&V, or D20 Modern Super Heroes, or any of a number of other Supers Genre games (and I... errr... anxiously await the inevitable "LOL OMFG! OMFG! They totally stole [x] from [insert favorite supers game, here]!!!!! LOLOLOLOLO! OMFG OMFG OMFG!!!"). And I further suspect that, like me, most people who have a favorite Supers game will stick to that, and will mine D20 Super Heroes for any interesting new mechanics or powers that may have been missed, and bolt those on top of their existing game. Thus fulfilling its true nature... as a toolkit. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Dig it? </p><p>I do.</p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="C. Baize, post: 2681343, member: 4571"] :D If I had a really good selling product, I'm not saying I wouldn't grandstand. Nor did I say there was anything inherently [i]wrong[/i] with grandstanding. But if someone's shouting on a corner, it's okay to recognize that they're shouting on the corner rather than softly whispering down the block, ya know? I mean... I worked for General Nutrition Centers, that doesn't mean I know how much Ginseng they'll sell this year. Having worked at WotC doesn't automagically make one an expert in all fields of the RPG industry. I'm not particularly awed by "I worked at WotC... buy my stuff and don't even consider disagreeing with me about anything RPG related!" (oh, come on, get that sour look off your face... we've all seen it from different ex-WotC folks at one time or another, in one form or another). And I can't necessarily blame them for playing that card... if I worked at WotC as a freakin' janitor, I'd probably play the same card. "I worked at WotC! I are a publisher gawd! Buy my stuff!" (oh, and I still buy product from some of the ex-WotC folks who played that card, especially early on, it's just something that makes me chuckle and move on. I'm not really knocking them for it, just calling it like I see it, as I say... I would do the same thing) I honestly don't have a problem with publishers grandstanding, it's a decent marketing tool. Being one of those people, however, who couldn't really care less about M&M, and not having a competing product (or any product, for that matter) on the market at all... I have no vested interest here. I think D20 Super Heroes will outsell pretty much any 3rd party product based on WotC's name power, alone. Err... what? Tell me they don't think the Marvel Super Heroes FASERIP system was D6... Please... It'd be a fun little bet. But all in all, it doesn't really matter. As long as both books profit, then they're both successful. And if company A gets theirs... it shouldn't matter to their loyal adherents if company B gets theirs, too. I dunno about Cyberscape... but B&C: Cybernetics rocks. As for it having synergy with B&V... THAT would be cool. I hadn't even considered that aspect. That would make it MUCH more useful in my book, and in my game. Honestly, though... I suspect it'll be its own take. It might have similarities with which one could try to tie it to M&M, or 4CTF, or B&V, or D20 Modern Super Heroes, or any of a number of other Supers Genre games (and I... errr... anxiously await the inevitable "LOL OMFG! OMFG! They totally stole [x] from [insert favorite supers game, here]!!!!! LOLOLOLOLO! OMFG OMFG OMFG!!!"). And I further suspect that, like me, most people who have a favorite Supers game will stick to that, and will mine D20 Super Heroes for any interesting new mechanics or powers that may have been missed, and bolt those on top of their existing game. Thus fulfilling its true nature... as a toolkit. ;) Dig it? I do. :) [/QUOTE]
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