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Message: <blockquote data-quote="SSquirrel" data-source="post: 1455170" data-attributes="member: 5202">4CTF is excellent and there are 2 versions available...a standard 3E based one and one that was redone for d20 Modern. I only own the original 3E version so I can't comment on the Modern version, but I've found it to e excellent. Just lay the supers rules overtop of the d20 rules you already know and you're ready to go. The Hero class provides power points aplenty to make your character. Mutant & Mastermind does look gorgeous, but they had a lot more money to throw at a nice hardback than ENWorld Publishing did. Don't let looks fool you tho, its an excellent pdf product.    Aberrant is the White Wolf supers game (it was in the same universe as Adventure! and Trinity...20s pulp and future sci-fi respectively) and I've run it before. It's my favorite way to run supers games simply because the storyteller system is very easy and the main book allows you to make most of the marvel universe style characters. If you have the Players Guide as well, you're definitely set as there is some errata there as well. I made a few small changes. For example, Quantum Blast is WAY overpowered so I removed it...no blasts of energy from players unless they get a power like that from something like Magnetic Control. Those variants are much toned down. You could also just change its power level to fit one of those better.      Haven't gotten to see Deeds Not Words yet, but I've heard great thing about it as well.      GURPS uses 4 stats and gets by ok, but I tend to agree. Apparently 3 stats works fine for BESM tho. SAS d20 I don't enjoy as much b/c it seems more complex than it really needs to be. Then again, they want you to be able to completely customize your powers...which you can do wonderfully.  Also I wouldn't necc say that 4CTF is only for ading to an existing campaign world.  Technically they have a setting built into teh pdf which you can use, but you can also easily just make up your own world to run it in.  Me I wanna combine teh d20 Mecha and Gamma World treatments from Polyhedron (maybe the SJ minigame as well) and 4CTF on top of D&D....mutated trolls....super powers...mechs that run on magic...it'd be a blast heh    Hagen</blockquote>

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