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<blockquote data-quote="Sigurd" data-source="post: 4545760" data-attributes="member: 19412"><p><strong>re destroying old D20 Stock</strong></p><p></p><p>The bottom line for me is that I had a really good feeling about WOTC when they introduced the D20 License. They were not just about their product but about Gaming. This, to me, was a sign of them coming into their own and recognizing their leadership in role playing games. I came back to Role Playing because of the wealth of writers.</p><p></p><p>The D20 license, and the loyalty it created, carved up all the game purchasing channels in my area. I remember stores with 30+ different role playing games, but very quickly there was D20 D&D and maybe Warcraft or some other big publisher. Variety didn't include Chaosium and Iron Crown and Gurps, it meant D20 D&D (including lots of splat books) and D20 Modern! The mass support from other publishers swelled the material and made D20 very appealing - still does. They soaked up a lot of creativity that otherwise would have gone into other systems - who knows what might have happened?</p><p></p><p>Much of my favourite stuff _doesn't_ come from WOTC.</p><p></p><p>Now they want to start again. I'm big enough to wish them well and be curious about what they might publish. Is their revision so bad that it can't compete with the previous version on merit? Why do they have to stick it to the other publishers and actually force the destruction of stock?</p><p></p><p>Why do they want to take other publisher's books away from me ? I like weird and wonderful gaming variety. Ether to game with or just to read, I have a huge collection of strange books but I'm sure there are others... At least their would be if they could stay on the shelves. Some of my favourite works have been one offs. How many talented, marginal, or non profitable publishers will be lost to me?</p><p></p><p>Whats the half-life of an old game? You'd think that eventually disinterest would remove the products anyway. I find it mean spirited that they are taking the profits from the tiny presses and destroying potentially thousands of books just 'because'.</p><p></p><p>I have every sympathy for publishers in this and nothing but disappointment and resentment for WOTC. As a purchaser, they are forcing the destruction of books I might want to buy. I understand that they _can_ do it, I'm just very disappointed that they stuck it to me the consumer and publishers I appreciate.</p><p></p><p>Chrysler may no longer sell classic cars but they can't require they be destroyed and taken from the consumer.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Sigurd</p><p></p><p></p><p>I hope people make more of the OGL because it can't be taken away. To me its the beginnings of more open gaming. I see WOTC slipping into the sad shadow of its former leadership.</p><p></p><p><strong>Emerald Press</strong> and <strong>Mongoose</strong> have really gained stature in my estimation because they are giving their old material a respectful bon voyage. Way too much creativity and invention will simply go quietly into the dark night.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sigurd, post: 4545760, member: 19412"] [b]re destroying old D20 Stock[/b] The bottom line for me is that I had a really good feeling about WOTC when they introduced the D20 License. They were not just about their product but about Gaming. This, to me, was a sign of them coming into their own and recognizing their leadership in role playing games. I came back to Role Playing because of the wealth of writers. The D20 license, and the loyalty it created, carved up all the game purchasing channels in my area. I remember stores with 30+ different role playing games, but very quickly there was D20 D&D and maybe Warcraft or some other big publisher. Variety didn't include Chaosium and Iron Crown and Gurps, it meant D20 D&D (including lots of splat books) and D20 Modern! The mass support from other publishers swelled the material and made D20 very appealing - still does. They soaked up a lot of creativity that otherwise would have gone into other systems - who knows what might have happened? Much of my favourite stuff _doesn't_ come from WOTC. Now they want to start again. I'm big enough to wish them well and be curious about what they might publish. Is their revision so bad that it can't compete with the previous version on merit? Why do they have to stick it to the other publishers and actually force the destruction of stock? Why do they want to take other publisher's books away from me ? I like weird and wonderful gaming variety. Ether to game with or just to read, I have a huge collection of strange books but I'm sure there are others... At least their would be if they could stay on the shelves. Some of my favourite works have been one offs. How many talented, marginal, or non profitable publishers will be lost to me? Whats the half-life of an old game? You'd think that eventually disinterest would remove the products anyway. I find it mean spirited that they are taking the profits from the tiny presses and destroying potentially thousands of books just 'because'. I have every sympathy for publishers in this and nothing but disappointment and resentment for WOTC. As a purchaser, they are forcing the destruction of books I might want to buy. I understand that they _can_ do it, I'm just very disappointed that they stuck it to me the consumer and publishers I appreciate. Chrysler may no longer sell classic cars but they can't require they be destroyed and taken from the consumer. Sigurd I hope people make more of the OGL because it can't be taken away. To me its the beginnings of more open gaming. I see WOTC slipping into the sad shadow of its former leadership. [B]Emerald Press[/B] and [B]Mongoose[/B] have really gained stature in my estimation because they are giving their old material a respectful bon voyage. Way too much creativity and invention will simply go quietly into the dark night. [/QUOTE]
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