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<blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 9748720" data-attributes="member: 891"><p>I've kind of tried to recommend that one to a few people who's brains worked the opposite from mine. It looks like a very solid game for more gamist players. If they manage good product support I suspect they will end up competing head to head against Pathfinder 2E.</p><p></p><p>These days when I talk about those games (Drawsteel and PF2E) in too much detail I end up using terms that their fans find insulting - not out of ill intent but because my mental frame has shifted and I'm not seeing it right anymore.</p><p></p><p>D&D... while it looks very gamist, has a culture that sits more in the middle of all things - being the base that most gamers work with.</p><p></p><p>But I feel like Drawsteel and Pathfinder's players will look at each other and wonder if they're not looking in a mirror. People will pick one or the other for various details in the engines or the authors - but the players will largely have an easy time of talking to each other. I'd almost suggest Drawsteel and PF2E players all get a copy of the other game to run on 'off nights' as a way to avoid burnout - just like I used to tell people who played WoW or FFXIV before I stopped playing MMOs.</p><p></p><p>Unlike this thread where some of us have brains that are one shape, others another shape. And most of what we've achieved here is to realize a round peg doesn't fit in a square hole very well. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin :D" data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kichwas, post: 9748720, member: 891"] I've kind of tried to recommend that one to a few people who's brains worked the opposite from mine. It looks like a very solid game for more gamist players. If they manage good product support I suspect they will end up competing head to head against Pathfinder 2E. These days when I talk about those games (Drawsteel and PF2E) in too much detail I end up using terms that their fans find insulting - not out of ill intent but because my mental frame has shifted and I'm not seeing it right anymore. D&D... while it looks very gamist, has a culture that sits more in the middle of all things - being the base that most gamers work with. But I feel like Drawsteel and Pathfinder's players will look at each other and wonder if they're not looking in a mirror. People will pick one or the other for various details in the engines or the authors - but the players will largely have an easy time of talking to each other. I'd almost suggest Drawsteel and PF2E players all get a copy of the other game to run on 'off nights' as a way to avoid burnout - just like I used to tell people who played WoW or FFXIV before I stopped playing MMOs. Unlike this thread where some of us have brains that are one shape, others another shape. And most of what we've achieved here is to realize a round peg doesn't fit in a square hole very well. :D [/QUOTE]
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