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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Kichwas" data-source="post: 9895134" data-attributes="member: 891">The keyword there being D&D.Daggerheart isn't D&D.If I wanted D&D, I'd get D&D.I want a Druid. Not whatever D&D is.I don't mind a subclass - "that guy from D&D".But baking it in as a generic class feature when it's such a hyper-specific concept that only D&D players and WoW players have a reference for bothers me. Especially as it's only part of recent D&D as something that is a powerhouse unlimited best martial in the game idea. Up through third edition it was a mid to high level very limited times per day ability to more or less become some small non-combat critter until you'd gotten way up there if ever. Druid didn't appear in the core 4th edition book - which instead had new classes like warlock and warlord. I imagine it was in a supplement somewhere but I don't have that to check.I guess I wanted a nature focused magical caster. Not a WoW bear tank.I'm not a D&D player - I moved away from it in 1982 and have only some small breaks coming back here and there.That I need to be a D&D player to understand Daggerheart is a bit off to me. Given that it lacks a built in setting called "our rip of D&D" like Pathfinder has, it should have had some ability to play fantasy. And not just remake D&D on 2d12.There's a lot of things I like. But everytime I see how hyper specific their classes are I realize the game is trying very hard to push me away.I might not have balked at this so hard if it wasn't the absolute most powerful ability in the entire game system - at every level and across every class. It's so unbalanced you'd think Mercer only plays Druid the same way Black Mage was so unbalanced for years in FFXIV because Yoshi-P mained it. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> So it becomes the entire focus of a character if they take that class. If it had been at all mild or balanced, you could choose to play a 'nature caster' and ignore it without feeling like you were intentionally trolling your game table.But everytime I want a nature character I look at the class, then remember I'm essentially being a jerk if I don't play it as "the party tank / melee bruiser / healer" all at the same time - and move on because well, I wanted a nature character. And that one class reminds me their classes are locked to specific themes: in this case: "lets copy D&D 5E", and don't have room to move far beyond those themes.</blockquote>

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