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Message: <blockquote data-quote="innerdude" data-source="post: 9692153" data-attributes="member: 85870">Question for those of you familiar with print production business --After the near-immediate sellout of the first print run, Amazon showed the Daggerheart core listing as out of stock.Late last week, I checked the Amazon listing again and it showed up in stock with a guaranteed delivery date of ~July 2nd or 3rd.Looking at the Amazon listing today, it's still showing direct fulfillment from Amazon, with delivery date of July 6-9, so it appears at least on the surface that a second, possibly third shipment of stock has at least made its way to Amazon. (It also still shows as the #140 most popular book title across all of Amazon, which is still pretty impressive.)I can't recall who specifically mentioned it, but I recall seeing (I believe on this site) from a well-known RPG publisher (maybe someone from Green Ronin or Steve Jackson Games?) that an RPG title that sells 5,000 copies is a very strong product.So my question is, what would be a common initial print run for a book like the Daggerheart core --- of the same type, size, weight, paper texture, color print type, etc.?Would the first printing have been 10,000 copies? 15k? 25k?And what would be a typical count and lead-in time for a second printing? Once the printer gets word a second run is needed, how long does it take to print and bind?Mostly curious because I've yet to see a single copy of Daggerheart in any one of 5 FLGS's I frequent off and on. My current market (Salt Lake City) is a hugely popular "nerd zone" (Salt Lake has its own Fan-X con every year), so I can't believe that the local game stores are simply choosing not to carry it. So curious if it's still a function of the downline demand still eating into the print backlog, etc.Or possibly that it's still considered an "indie press" product, so isn't included in the major distributor channels?I mean, obviously I could ask one of the folks at one of the stores to order it in, but I frankly hate having to deal with what passes for "customer service" these days. I hate having to play the song and dance with the customer service folks. Half the time they don't even know what you're talking about, or they can only get stuff through their preferred distributor. Then even if their distributor carries it, then having to wait for the distributor to stock in, then order it, then half the time they don't even contact you when your order arrives, etc.In all seriousness it's much less painful to order it off Amazon than order it direct to a store, obviously to the detriment of the FLGS's. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></blockquote>

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