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<blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9829182" data-attributes="member: 7043270"><p>No it did not! This was disproved YEARS ago. Why does this still come up?</p><p></p><p></p><p>Here 2 links: <a href="https://alphastream.org/index.php/2023/07/08/pathfinder-never-outsold-4e-dd-icymi/" target="_blank">Pathfinder Never Outsold 4E D&D (ICYMI)</a></p><p></p><p>It only showed better results in a really really limited survey of us based hobbyshops.</p><p></p><p>D&D alone did even made more money than the whole of paizo in the year 2013 where not a single new D&D book was relleased: [MEDIA=reddit]4eDnD/comments/1pb9jzv[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Exactly because of these wrong statements go around so easily, I am also skeptical about this news.</p><p></p><p></p><p>In the end this was from an interview so its marketing and "the game sold out" just sounds good/gives a strong narrative.</p><p></p><p></p><p>D&D 5e did exactly to the same. People still believe today that 5e had amazing initial sales because WotC reportes that they had to reprint several times and that it exeeded their expectation. (Which might be true because they had low expectations and low initial printruns).</p><p></p><p>But in fact it only had good sales after Critical Role and then amazing ones after Stranger things, so yes big actual plays are THAT important! It made the D&D version with the weakest initial release into the one with by far the best sales.</p><p></p><p></p><p>You know "5e did sell out really fast" sounds a lot better than "5e was by far the weakest release of any D&D edition under WotC", which also would be true. (D&D made 29 millions in the year 5e released. That is about the same as the 25 millions at the end of 3.5 where we know that 3e and 3.5 had a really strong dropp off to half or less)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tigris, post: 9829182, member: 7043270"] No it did not! This was disproved YEARS ago. Why does this still come up? Here 2 links: [URL='https://alphastream.org/index.php/2023/07/08/pathfinder-never-outsold-4e-dd-icymi/']Pathfinder Never Outsold 4E D&D (ICYMI)[/URL] It only showed better results in a really really limited survey of us based hobbyshops. D&D alone did even made more money than the whole of paizo in the year 2013 where not a single new D&D book was relleased: [MEDIA=reddit]4eDnD/comments/1pb9jzv[/MEDIA] Exactly because of these wrong statements go around so easily, I am also skeptical about this news. In the end this was from an interview so its marketing and "the game sold out" just sounds good/gives a strong narrative. D&D 5e did exactly to the same. People still believe today that 5e had amazing initial sales because WotC reportes that they had to reprint several times and that it exeeded their expectation. (Which might be true because they had low expectations and low initial printruns). But in fact it only had good sales after Critical Role and then amazing ones after Stranger things, so yes big actual plays are THAT important! It made the D&D version with the weakest initial release into the one with by far the best sales. You know "5e did sell out really fast" sounds a lot better than "5e was by far the weakest release of any D&D edition under WotC", which also would be true. (D&D made 29 millions in the year 5e released. That is about the same as the 25 millions at the end of 3.5 where we know that 3e and 3.5 had a really strong dropp off to half or less) [/QUOTE]
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