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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tigris" data-source="post: 9829319" data-attributes="member: 7043270">Sorry but "very strong" may be nebulous, but "worse than any other D&D initial release" is not nebulous. Thsts just a fact. Or "in the year of the 5e release D&D only made 2 times as much money as in the year with no new book releases."You are right "very strong" means nothing, thats why I use facts and actual numbers and say that this marketing speak means nothing. Yes 5e continued to sell, thanks to critical roll and later stranger things. Which makes it so strange that the company which releases critical role does not use their one verry strong marketing tool for their own game. Also everyone who knows a bit about kickstarters know that most big kickstarters with a lot of marketing do similar things. Release a really low initial goal, with many additional goals, which they know they will succeed, just to post things like "1000% founded!"</blockquote>