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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gorgoroth" data-source="post: 6064147" data-attributes="member: 6674889">Yeah, but the icy shortsword, even while sitting respectably at the same table as the fiery greataxe or holy avenger or vorpal longsword at its head, should not sit closer and closer to the head as time goes on. What I mean is, the relative damage potential of the short sword vs greatsword becomes greater and greater as the fighter gets higher level. How is that right? So it models that a super high level fighter is very deadly with Sting. So why does not Aragorn use it? Or Gandalf not pick up Sting for hisself? I mean, weapons should suit their wearers size and style, sure, but look at it this way.At 20th level, currently a fighter's damage is W + 6d6 + say 2d8 fire + 28 (+20 fighter damage bonus, +5 strength, +3 weapon). The non-weapon part averages to 58 + W. If W is d4 = ~3.5 for a dagger at the low end, and d12 = ~6.5 for a greatsword or greataxe, that means at level 20 the proportion of damage done by the weapon choice itself vs overall is 4.1% for the dagger and 10% for the greataxe. Meaning your entire character's look, feel, and iconic presentation to the world, the other players, the enemy...is worth 6% from the littlest to the biggest weapon. What...the...#@!@#. That SUCKSThe flavour of Martial Damage die is nowhere near as cool as the flavour of a big weapon doing more damage. Why have it at all? Some people even suggested that here. That is NOT a feature of D&D. Weapon tables should matter. Gygax is probably rolling in his grave at this one. d6s for everyone! you get a d6, you get a d6, you get a d6, YOU get a d6!!! omg think of the flavour and variety!!In the end, a fighter is more effective with a shortsword or handaxe and shield than a greatsword. yes, I said shortsword over longsword, because you can use the deflect feat with it, conceal it. Heck you can even throw the axe (although this playtest doesn't state if you can throw it using str, it just says vaguely that you usually use Dex to throw stuff). Which brings me to another point, you're still better off overall in light armor with a super high dex, and a shield, than in plate with a greatsword. That is...sad, IMO.</blockquote>

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