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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5218381" data-attributes="member: 71571">Except there's a problem with this logically.The power isn't doing an instance of fire damage and an instance of cold damage.  If this were the case, then of course immunity to fire damage would not affect the cold damage.What is occuring is that there is only one instance in question.Now, because that instance IS fire damage, immunity protects you from it.  And because there are no other effects under discussion, the idea that other effects are not affected by immunity is not even a valid point of discussion.---------------------If I have an element called 'X', then if I say 'X has a quality' and 'other elements do not have that quality' than 'other elements' does not and cannot refer to X.---------------------So:If you have a power:Elements in OppositionDaily - Arcane, Implement, Fire, Cold, Fear....Hit: 1[W] + Intelligence fire and cold damage, and the target is weakened and has ongoing cold damage 5 (save ends both).Effect:  The target is pushed 1 square.Immunity to weakened would prevent that condition, but not the ongoing cold damage nor the primary damage.Immunity to fear would prevent the weakened condition, and the push, but not the damage.Now:Immunity to fire.Obviously this doesn't prevent the weakened, the ongoing cold damage, or the push.  But what about the 1[W] + Intellegence fire and cold damage?Well, this IS fire damage.  So it is negated.  The cold damage aspect of it is not another effect.  It is the -same- effect as the fire damage, and there is no rule that says that immunity must double down on double-damage type abilities.  Because the damage cannot be an effect other than itself, it cannot be negated by the 'other effects' rule.Therefore, it is negated.Unless you can some how explain how something is a thing other than itself, your logic doesn't make sense, and requires some more explanation.</blockquote>

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