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<blockquote data-quote="DracoSuave" data-source="post: 5219330" data-attributes="member: 71571"><p>This is the problem:</p><p></p><p>You are confusing 'damage types' with 'keywords.' They are not the same thing, in the same way an implement is not the same thing as the Implement keyword, the Beast Form is not the same thing as the Beast Form keyword, and a Spirit companion is not the same thing as the Spirit keyword.</p><p></p><p>Are they all related? Yes. The keyword indicates there is a relation, with varying rules to determine how they relate. But the keyword and the game element they relate to are not the same thing.</p><p></p><p>The same thing occurs with keywords relating to damage, and damage types. Take, for instance:</p><p></p><p><strong><em>Blazing Starfall - Sorcerer Attack 1</em></strong></p><p><strong>At-Will - Arcane, Fire, Implement, Radiant, Zone</strong></p><p><strong>Standard Action - Area</strong> burst 1 within 10 squares</p><p><strong>Target:</strong> Each creature in burst</p><p><strong>Attack:</strong> Charisma vs. Reflex</p><p><strong>Hit:</strong> 1d4 + Charisma modifier radiant damage.</p><p>Level 21: 2d4 + Charisma modifier radiant damage.</p><p><strong>Cosmic Magic:</strong> The burst creates a zone bounded by</p><p>burning ground that lasts until the end of your next turn.</p><p>Whenever an enemy within the zone leaves it, that</p><p>enemy takes fire damage equal to your Strength modifier.</p><p></p><p>Let's assume for sake of argument you are not a Cosmic sorcerer. This being your only Area at-will option, you might take it anyways because an Area at-will is good in the hands of -any- sorcerer.</p><p></p><p>The power only deals radiant damage. Ever. It can never deal a single point of fire damage. </p><p></p><p>HOWEVER</p><p></p><p>The effects of the power are still Fire effects, because the power has that keyword. The radiant damage? A fire effect. Also, a zone effect, an arcane effect, and an implement effect.</p><p></p><p>Abilities that interact with such effects will interact with ALL those effects regardless of the fact that all the power can do is a burst of radiant damage.</p><p></p><p>In the PHB, immunity states you cannot take damage from foo effects, and that is why someone immune to fire (pre-PHB3) would never take damage from this power. The entirety of it is a Fire effect. It just doesn't deal fire damage.</p><p></p><p>-------------------------------</p><p></p><p>Damage does not have a keyword, it has a damage type. If you do '4 fire damage' that is not '4 damage with the fire keyword.' Keywords are things powers have, and all effects of a power share that keyword.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="DracoSuave, post: 5219330, member: 71571"] This is the problem: You are confusing 'damage types' with 'keywords.' They are not the same thing, in the same way an implement is not the same thing as the Implement keyword, the Beast Form is not the same thing as the Beast Form keyword, and a Spirit companion is not the same thing as the Spirit keyword. Are they all related? Yes. The keyword indicates there is a relation, with varying rules to determine how they relate. But the keyword and the game element they relate to are not the same thing. The same thing occurs with keywords relating to damage, and damage types. Take, for instance: [B][I]Blazing Starfall - Sorcerer Attack 1[/I][/B] [B]At-Will - Arcane, Fire, Implement, Radiant, Zone Standard Action - Area[/B] burst 1 within 10 squares [B]Target:[/B] Each creature in burst [B]Attack:[/B] Charisma vs. Reflex [B]Hit:[/B] 1d4 + Charisma modifier radiant damage. Level 21: 2d4 + Charisma modifier radiant damage. [B]Cosmic Magic:[/B] The burst creates a zone bounded by burning ground that lasts until the end of your next turn. Whenever an enemy within the zone leaves it, that enemy takes fire damage equal to your Strength modifier. Let's assume for sake of argument you are not a Cosmic sorcerer. This being your only Area at-will option, you might take it anyways because an Area at-will is good in the hands of -any- sorcerer. The power only deals radiant damage. Ever. It can never deal a single point of fire damage. HOWEVER The effects of the power are still Fire effects, because the power has that keyword. The radiant damage? A fire effect. Also, a zone effect, an arcane effect, and an implement effect. Abilities that interact with such effects will interact with ALL those effects regardless of the fact that all the power can do is a burst of radiant damage. In the PHB, immunity states you cannot take damage from foo effects, and that is why someone immune to fire (pre-PHB3) would never take damage from this power. The entirety of it is a Fire effect. It just doesn't deal fire damage. ------------------------------- Damage does not have a keyword, it has a damage type. If you do '4 fire damage' that is not '4 damage with the fire keyword.' Keywords are things powers have, and all effects of a power share that keyword. [/QUOTE]
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