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Damage on a Miss: Because otherwise Armour Class makes no sense
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<blockquote data-quote="D'karr" data-source="post: 6459207" data-attributes="member: 336"><p>I'll address Schrödinger's Hit Points by use of two examples:</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Example 1:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The scene: A well contested Heavy-weight championship fight.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> After a few rounds of body blow exchanges, jabs, deflected hits, dodging, weaving and constant movement around the ring the boxer is punched in the jaw. With a glazed gaze he tumbles forward, and gets knocked out. The referee starts the count, "1, 2, 3." The boxer is down and seems out of it. "4, 5", the count continues. The corner coach is screaming, "get up you bum!" "6, 7", the referee is looking carefully at the boxer on the mat. The boxer starts to get up and is on one knee. "8, 9", the boxer gets back on his feet. The referee checks him out and the fight continues. Eventually this boxer wins the fight by knockout on the 12th round.</p><p></p><p style="margin-left: 20px">Example 2:</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px">The scene: A well contested Heavy-weight championship fight.</p> <p style="margin-left: 20px"> After a few rounds of body blow exchanges, jabs, deflected hits, dodging, weaving and constant movement around the ring the boxer is punched in the jaw. With a glazed gaze he tumbles forward, and gets knocked out. The referee starts the count, "1, 2, 3." The boxer is down and seems out of it. "4, 5", the count continues. The corner coach is screaming, "get up you bum!" "6, 7", the referee is looking carefully at the boxer on the mat. "8, 9", the boxer is out and seems unable to recover. "10!" the opponent wins by knockout. The boxer on the mat does not recover, as a matter of fact he is Dead on Arrival at the hospital.</p><p></p><p>In either of these cases, how many of the boxer's HP were meat and how many stamina, luck, skill, divine favor, etc.?</p><p></p><p>The fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter. What matters is the final outcome. Did he get back up and continue to fight? Did he survive the fight? Did he die?</p><p></p><p>If he gets back up it's a heroic comeback. If he survives the fight, it's a bonus. If he wins the fight it's a great win. If he dies then go back to character creation and make up another one.</p><p></p><p>The whole conversation of Schrödinger's Hit Points is a red-herring in this respect, because how many hit points are meat is irrelevant. What matters is what was the final outcome of the fight (win, lose, draw, or death).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="D'karr, post: 6459207, member: 336"] I'll address Schrödinger's Hit Points by use of two examples: [indent]Example 1: The scene: A well contested Heavy-weight championship fight. After a few rounds of body blow exchanges, jabs, deflected hits, dodging, weaving and constant movement around the ring the boxer is punched in the jaw. With a glazed gaze he tumbles forward, and gets knocked out. The referee starts the count, "1, 2, 3." The boxer is down and seems out of it. "4, 5", the count continues. The corner coach is screaming, "get up you bum!" "6, 7", the referee is looking carefully at the boxer on the mat. The boxer starts to get up and is on one knee. "8, 9", the boxer gets back on his feet. The referee checks him out and the fight continues. Eventually this boxer wins the fight by knockout on the 12th round.[/indent] [indent]Example 2: The scene: A well contested Heavy-weight championship fight. After a few rounds of body blow exchanges, jabs, deflected hits, dodging, weaving and constant movement around the ring the boxer is punched in the jaw. With a glazed gaze he tumbles forward, and gets knocked out. The referee starts the count, "1, 2, 3." The boxer is down and seems out of it. "4, 5", the count continues. The corner coach is screaming, "get up you bum!" "6, 7", the referee is looking carefully at the boxer on the mat. "8, 9", the boxer is out and seems unable to recover. "10!" the opponent wins by knockout. The boxer on the mat does not recover, as a matter of fact he is Dead on Arrival at the hospital.[/indent] In either of these cases, how many of the boxer's HP were meat and how many stamina, luck, skill, divine favor, etc.? The fact of the matter is that it doesn't matter. What matters is the final outcome. Did he get back up and continue to fight? Did he survive the fight? Did he die? If he gets back up it's a heroic comeback. If he survives the fight, it's a bonus. If he wins the fight it's a great win. If he dies then go back to character creation and make up another one. The whole conversation of Schrödinger's Hit Points is a red-herring in this respect, because how many hit points are meat is irrelevant. What matters is what was the final outcome of the fight (win, lose, draw, or death). [/QUOTE]
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