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Damage Reduction vs. Two Weapon Fighting
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<blockquote data-quote="The_Nighthawk" data-source="post: 1337723" data-attributes="member: 16406"><p><strong>If I remember</strong></p><p></p><p>There was an old feat of some name that was in one of the mongoose publishing.</p><p></p><p>The quintessential fighter I think the book was.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, in it, there was a feat or a class that allowed a character to strike with both weapons (assuming he wield two weapon, or a double one) and substract the DR from the total of the two hits.</p><p></p><p>Personally, I think that TWF should be the greatest fighting style assuming you have the right attribute. After all, you are spending so much feats.</p><p></p><p>Then, you gain less than anyone.</p><p></p><p>I keep seing this: -Use energy weapon, like fire, or cold weapons. They deal an additional +1d6 of damage each time they touch, and sometime, +1d0 when dealing a critical hits. Now, those wielding THW are toasted.</p><p></p><p>True, but have you notice that energy weapon can be used as a THW. Let's see a greataxe for example.</p><p>+1d6 for energy on a normal hit, and +2d10 dealing a critical hits.</p><p></p><p>Let's say that my fighter with 46 feats using two small weapon deliver 6 hits for 1d6+5 each + 1d6 elemental damage each: Total: 12d6+30</p><p>Assuming all d6 rolls where 3s= 66.</p><p></p><p></p><p>My greataxe wielder hit only 3 times because of his 3 attacks.</p><p>1d12+12 each + 1d6 elemental damage each: Total: 3d12+36+3d6.</p><p>Assuming all d6 rolls where 3s, and d12 where 6s = 63.</p><p></p><p>Here, the 2 weapons wielder have a little advantage assuming his off-hand deals as much str damage as his main hands, and assuming the great axe user do not use power attack.</p><p></p><p>Now, lets see a critical hit for the great axe: 3d12+36+1d6+2d10.</p><p>Total: 67</p><p></p><p>Now lets see 2 critical hits for the two weapons user: 2d6+10+1d6+1d10</p><p>Total: 24</p><p>Since he hits two times = 24 x2 = 48.</p><p></p><p>Here... we see that the Great axe wielder with energy weapon is still by far the stronger opponent anytime.</p><p></p><p>What he needs ? nothing... Give him weapon focus and power attack, and he is a monster.</p><p></p><p>What the Two weapon fighter needs ? 3 feats, high dex, 2 magic weapons, and a special power that make his second attack as strong as his first. </p><p></p><p>To what purpose ? None at all. Even with that, he is far behind the greataxe wielder.</p><p></p><p>Twf is not that hard. It is hard, but not that hard. And fighters should benefit the most from that style. In this game, rogues and precision based damage are the only way that style can become viable.</p><p></p><p>Too bad.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="The_Nighthawk, post: 1337723, member: 16406"] [b]If I remember[/b] There was an old feat of some name that was in one of the mongoose publishing. The quintessential fighter I think the book was. Anyway, in it, there was a feat or a class that allowed a character to strike with both weapons (assuming he wield two weapon, or a double one) and substract the DR from the total of the two hits. Personally, I think that TWF should be the greatest fighting style assuming you have the right attribute. After all, you are spending so much feats. Then, you gain less than anyone. I keep seing this: -Use energy weapon, like fire, or cold weapons. They deal an additional +1d6 of damage each time they touch, and sometime, +1d0 when dealing a critical hits. Now, those wielding THW are toasted. True, but have you notice that energy weapon can be used as a THW. Let's see a greataxe for example. +1d6 for energy on a normal hit, and +2d10 dealing a critical hits. Let's say that my fighter with 46 feats using two small weapon deliver 6 hits for 1d6+5 each + 1d6 elemental damage each: Total: 12d6+30 Assuming all d6 rolls where 3s= 66. My greataxe wielder hit only 3 times because of his 3 attacks. 1d12+12 each + 1d6 elemental damage each: Total: 3d12+36+3d6. Assuming all d6 rolls where 3s, and d12 where 6s = 63. Here, the 2 weapons wielder have a little advantage assuming his off-hand deals as much str damage as his main hands, and assuming the great axe user do not use power attack. Now, lets see a critical hit for the great axe: 3d12+36+1d6+2d10. Total: 67 Now lets see 2 critical hits for the two weapons user: 2d6+10+1d6+1d10 Total: 24 Since he hits two times = 24 x2 = 48. Here... we see that the Great axe wielder with energy weapon is still by far the stronger opponent anytime. What he needs ? nothing... Give him weapon focus and power attack, and he is a monster. What the Two weapon fighter needs ? 3 feats, high dex, 2 magic weapons, and a special power that make his second attack as strong as his first. To what purpose ? None at all. Even with that, he is far behind the greataxe wielder. Twf is not that hard. It is hard, but not that hard. And fighters should benefit the most from that style. In this game, rogues and precision based damage are the only way that style can become viable. Too bad. [/QUOTE]
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