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<blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7832502" data-attributes="member: 996"><p>Frogreaver has made it clear that's not the point. It's a much more focused quibble with the way cantrips' damage scaling compares to low-level damage-causing spells. </p><p>Now, if it were just "get rid of cantrips, give us back damage scaling spells by caster level," you'd have a much stronger case.</p><p></p><p> If you include Paladin and, well, er, Warlock, in "martial classes," maybe.</p><p></p><p>But, that's pretty nearly the idea behind the Controller (plus de-buffs) and Striker roles as formalized in 4e. (Which, I know, it burns, it's not D&D, &c... insert fast-forward re-play of 10 years of edition warring, settle nothing.... lather, rinse, repeat )</p><p></p><p>Better balance than you had before in 3.5? Sure. </p><p>Better balance than we had before in 4e? No. </p><p></p><p>I mean, that's prettymuch the definition of a compromise, it's between the two former extremes. That those extremes were wildly imbalanced in favor of casters, and only somewhat imbalanced in favor of casters, notwithstanding.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tony Vargas, post: 7832502, member: 996"] Frogreaver has made it clear that's not the point. It's a much more focused quibble with the way cantrips' damage scaling compares to low-level damage-causing spells. Now, if it were just "get rid of cantrips, give us back damage scaling spells by caster level," you'd have a much stronger case. If you include Paladin and, well, er, Warlock, in "martial classes," maybe. But, that's pretty nearly the idea behind the Controller (plus de-buffs) and Striker roles as formalized in 4e. (Which, I know, it burns, it's not D&D, &c... insert fast-forward re-play of 10 years of edition warring, settle nothing.... lather, rinse, repeat ) Better balance than you had before in 3.5? Sure. Better balance than we had before in 4e? No. I mean, that's prettymuch the definition of a compromise, it's between the two former extremes. That those extremes were wildly imbalanced in favor of casters, and only somewhat imbalanced in favor of casters, notwithstanding. [/QUOTE]
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