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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tony Vargas" data-source="post: 7832566" data-attributes="member: 996">My point, exactly.  Just because the apple weighs less than a duck, and will therefore float, doesn't make it a better Well, a fireball always does fire damage, and a firebolt always does fire damage, and the fireball will prettymuch probably always do more...… but, if you have to stop that troll crashing your kid's birthday party, the firebolt just might be the better choice, at least until you get the kids clear of the blast radius. Of course, there /is/ a first level spell and a cantrip that both do fire damage - and that's it, really, no cantrip does force or thunder damage - and it the first level spell has multiple advantages over the cantrip, besides doing more average damage until the cantrip has scaled 11th level (because the cantrip can miss).  But, /so does the cantrip/, even when it does less damage.If you're shooting at someone 60 feet away, Firebolt is hands-down superior to Burning Hands, because the latter wont reach, even after you take a move towards the target.  True even at 1st level, when the Firebolt does a paltry d10.So "always superior" is not really ever on the table, even with a Hypothetical scaling Burning Hands.</blockquote>