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<blockquote data-quote="Dire Bare" data-source="post: 5816440" data-attributes="member: 18182"><p>Eh, you're not getting what I'm trying to say. 'Course, I may not be making myself clear, that happens a lot, especially on issues I'm not all that invested in. You obviously have done more "homework" on this pressing issue than I have, as I have never owned nor read the screenplays published. I don't doubt your timeline. But again, I don't really care as the "issue" of who shot first or what Lucas' original intent was isn't the issue I'm really talking about.</p><p></p><p>When I said the "shooting screenplay", I meant the process of Lucas making his movie, the actual filming and creating of the film, not the literal screenplay itself. As Lucas was making his film, he claims his intent for that scene was not to portray Han as a "cold-blooded killer" and that Greedo shot first. I have no reason to doubt what Lucas has said on the issue. Again, it's possible Lucas is devilishly trying to mess with the minds of loyal Star Wars fans, or is a feeble old guy who changed his mind and has convinced himself otherwise. But there is no real evidence that Lucas is mistaken or lying. Aaaanddd, it doesn't really matter if he is a big fat liar and/or a senile old film director.</p><p></p><p>The issue, from my perspective, is . . . so what? The change happened, regardless of how or why it happened, some folks think it was a poor decision that made the newer versions of the film poorer than the original, and I think that's a fair point of view.</p><p></p><p><strong><em>It's the vitriol. The not only baseless, but needless, claims that Lucas is a liar and/or a senile old fool. The claims that Lucas has destroyed the childhood of all true Star Wars fans, that he has taken something that has brought so much light into our dark world and sullied it forever.</em></strong></p><p></p><p>Even if you could get me to agree with you that, a) the movie changes are unequivocally terrible to anyone with even a slight amount of common sense, and b) that Lucas is a revisionist and manipulative man lying about his own creative process for no real gain . . . I'd still ask, "And how exactly has this ruined your childhood again?"</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Dire Bare, post: 5816440, member: 18182"] Eh, you're not getting what I'm trying to say. 'Course, I may not be making myself clear, that happens a lot, especially on issues I'm not all that invested in. You obviously have done more "homework" on this pressing issue than I have, as I have never owned nor read the screenplays published. I don't doubt your timeline. But again, I don't really care as the "issue" of who shot first or what Lucas' original intent was isn't the issue I'm really talking about. When I said the "shooting screenplay", I meant the process of Lucas making his movie, the actual filming and creating of the film, not the literal screenplay itself. As Lucas was making his film, he claims his intent for that scene was not to portray Han as a "cold-blooded killer" and that Greedo shot first. I have no reason to doubt what Lucas has said on the issue. Again, it's possible Lucas is devilishly trying to mess with the minds of loyal Star Wars fans, or is a feeble old guy who changed his mind and has convinced himself otherwise. But there is no real evidence that Lucas is mistaken or lying. Aaaanddd, it doesn't really matter if he is a big fat liar and/or a senile old film director. The issue, from my perspective, is . . . so what? The change happened, regardless of how or why it happened, some folks think it was a poor decision that made the newer versions of the film poorer than the original, and I think that's a fair point of view. [B][I]It's the vitriol. The not only baseless, but needless, claims that Lucas is a liar and/or a senile old fool. The claims that Lucas has destroyed the childhood of all true Star Wars fans, that he has taken something that has brought so much light into our dark world and sullied it forever.[/I][/B] Even if you could get me to agree with you that, a) the movie changes are unequivocally terrible to anyone with even a slight amount of common sense, and b) that Lucas is a revisionist and manipulative man lying about his own creative process for no real gain . . . I'd still ask, "And how exactly has this ruined your childhood again?" [/QUOTE]
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