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Message: <blockquote data-quote="PJ-Mason" data-source="post: 1688174" data-attributes="member: 12285">On Dancy-So far this is still all a "he said/she said" mess to me. When the whole thing comes out in the open, then i'll see. Assuming i ever care enough to research it myself. What i know for sure about Ryan Dancy is that he did one really great thing for D&D and gaming in general. Does this new fiasco cost him points? Yep. But then, he has some points to burn. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />On Sales factoring into awards-I think its appropriate for sales to figure in, as long as it doesn't affect the final result more than any of the other factors involved. Sure advertising has its effects, but so does word of mouth by locals who either like or hate a book. M&M was popular because most everyone who got it, loved it, and then told everyone else about it. Like i did. I think that had every bit to do with M&M's success as any marketing schemes GR was using. To exclude the average gamer's say in the matter then makes the matter of no interest to the average gamer. But then, most of these awards seem more like popularity contests among publishers anyway.On Awards-Don't need them, don't want them, couldn't afford them if i did. I trust my own judgement, my gamer-friend's judgements, and to a lesser extent my local gaming community (those i can walk up to and talk about a game with). A couple online reviewers also have my trust (or at least i understand their review-style to the point where i can understand how they reflect on my own personal tastes). Beyond that i don't care what others think. I certaintly don't care what the gaming industry and their "hangers on" thinks about their own products.On Gama-I've always heard about them but never really cared. I never even noticed they ran Origins until i saw it mentioned recently. i've done some research in the last couple days and I think that all this Dancy fiasco really did was alert a lot of people about Gama and its quagmire of gamer politics, in-fighting, personal wars....basically all the stuff i left behind when i graduated high school. Harsh? Maybe. But i call them like i see them.I'll also add that Dancy is a pretty smart cookie. He wouldn't fess up to something he didn't have to, unless he thought it made good sense. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Could be this was all a calculated attempt to drive Gama to its death bed. Lets wait and see if anyone attempts to create their own Gama-like organization sometime in the near future and if they have any direct or indirect relation to Dancy. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Personally, i like to see a rules provision in any "Award committee" set up that prohibits any product related to one of the committee members own gaming company (or freelancer) from being nominated. Then we'd see how many would still be interested in the job. Without that, i wouldn't trust ANYONES involvement in the process. I don't care who they are, or how good a rep they have.</blockquote>

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