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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WizarDru" data-source="post: 1692032" data-attributes="member: 151">Well, let's look at the facts: Underground was hyped on two things: it's Peter Chung artwork (who was and is still most famous for his MTV series, Aeon Flux) and it's 'Supers Punk" attitude and style. A game in which the main characters, afaik, were genetically-altered former super-soldiers from a war in South America trying to survive on the mean streets in a Shadowrun-esque oppresive world, working towards the overthrow of the government. There appears to have been <a href="http://www.coolgames.com/mfg-cat/undrgrnd/0300-ugt.htm" target="_blank">quite a few supplements</a>, as it turns out.   I mean, look at these pictures...does this strike you as mainstream superhero stuff that's not attempting to apply the vampire design-ethic to the 4-color genre?  <img src="http://www.coolgames.com/mfg-cat/undrgrnd/0357.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" /><img src="http://www.coolgames.com/mfg-cat/undrgrnd/0358.jpg" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " data-size="" style="" />     I'm not terribly enthused with Origins, as it happens, but these two statements strike me as conflicting. Winners at Origins this year included Indy Heroclix, Savage Worlds, Dragon Magazine, Mechwarrior, Dork Tower, Shadowrun, A Game of Thrones and .hack. Those are hardly unknown or unpopular products....whereas I've never heard of the three games you mention, before. I investigated Fireborn and Weapons of the Gods and discovered they aren't even out YET. A|State came out in February, it's true...but where?  It's a little RPG from the UK and I have no idea where it's available or how big a print run it's had. A little unfair to peg the awards show for that, IMHO.</blockquote>

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