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Message: <blockquote data-quote="buzz" data-source="post: 1694114" data-attributes="member: 6777">This sentiment does make sense, conceptually, but I think it's a slippery slope that can lead to a common (and, as I see it, fallacious) argument that gaming would be hellaciously popular if only the industry made lots of rules-lite, collaborative storytelling type games marketed to Joe Average.I think that it's more often the case that newbies have an easier time grasping games like, well, D&D, because it has clearly defined goals and is based on strong archetypes. The simple fact that it does have a lot of rules (and uses minis, and lots of dice) makes it more obviously a "game" and thus more easily grokked by the newbie.This isn't to say that there don't need to be good *introductory* products that ease newbies into the hobby. However, I don't know if I would want a newbie's first experience to be Nobilis or Everway ("This isn't going to end with us toching each other's bottoms, is it?").I think maybe the key is it tap into RPG-friendly trends and offer games that attract people who are interested in said trends, sort of like WW did with the goth subculture. It's too bad Decipher did such a shoddy job with the LOTR license...</blockquote>