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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Treebore" data-source="post: 5327225" data-attributes="member: 10177">4E never sold as well as WOTC would have liked, that was made clear back when this board was discussing the legal documents released for the PDF lawsuit.Is it in a death spiral? That depends on the Hasbro suits and the decisions they make based on how much the D&D brand makes for Hasbro.In comparison to other RPG's I have no doubt that WOTC's D&D brand sells more than any other RPG, so from that perspective it is in no more of a "death spiral" than the RPG industry as a whole is.My perspective is I don't care. I will go on gaming and finding people to game with just like I have for the last 25 years, no matter what happens to WOTC and D&D and the RPG industry as a whole.I would like for the industry as a whole to grow and become massively popular, because it would make it easier for me to find people to game with, but if it doesn't those of us who wish to continue to play RPG's will find a way to do it, whether face to face or online using things like Maptools and SKYPE.So Dancy may be right, but if so he is only right about companies and their "brands" dying, only we, the fans, can truly kill it by losing interest in doing it.</blockquote>