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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 9477651" data-attributes="member: 59057">Yes. All those people claiming the dance bard is a better monk were very much off base.The dance bard gets good AC without going through hoops.And evasiveness and some extra damage.Actually all bard subclass get some of that.Lore gets cutting wordsValor gets armorGlamor gets mirror imageI would also say, probably dance is the worst of those subclasses. But they also have a very strong ability in their initative boost. And evasion on level 14 actually does matter a lot.Lore's extra magic secrets has turned into a ribbon by then...Just a reminder: bards are full casters.From level 10 onwards, their spell list is the best of all lists.Fun fact: cleric subclasses went from 5 benefits to 3.</blockquote>