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<blockquote data-quote="pukunui" data-source="post: 9638634" data-attributes="member: 54629"><p>I'm now a good chunk of the way through OG Daredevil S3. I should wait till I'm finished, but right now I would rate the seasons thusly:</p><p></p><p>Season 1</p><p>Season 3</p><p>Season 4 (aka "Born Again")</p><p>Season 2</p><p></p><p>I think the show works best when it focuses on the dynamic between Kingpin and Daredevil. Season 2 suffered from the fact that Kingpin was mostly missing. The Punisher arc was good, but I didn't enjoy the Elektra / Hand vs Chaste war arc much.</p><p></p><p>I'm glad that "Born Again" has maintained the focus on Kingpin vs Daredevil, but it still felt kind of disjointed - probably due to the change in showrunners and reshoots and such. Also, Karen is one of the best characters on the show, so in retrospect, I think "Born Again" suffered from not having her be in most of it. (I'm less sold on Foggy. Sorry.)</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think it goes with the cartoonish gore. In the Netflix Punisher series, Frank can't speak after Rawlins beats him to a pulp.</p><p></p><p>On the subject of the credits scene: I wonder if it is setting up the upcoming 1-hour Punisher "special presentation" (like <em>Werewolf by Night</em>) or the next season of Daredevil. Anyone know which is meant to come out first?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Why would they be on the west coast? When did that happen? I don't think we've seen either of them since Kamala showed up at Kate's apartment in NYC during the credits scene at the end of <em>The Marvels</em>.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Of the originals, Thor and Hulk are still around. As of <em>Brave New World</em>, Sam (as Captain America) is rebuilding the Avengers team with the new Falcon as his first recruit.</p><p></p><p>Avengers-adjacent heroes like Ant-Man are still around as well. Clint is still alive, and it's unclear whether he has officially retired and/or passed the Hawkeye moniker on to Kate yet.</p><p></p><p>We also have Kamala actively working to start up a Young Avengers team, most likely with Kate as her first recruit. I'm guessing she'll end up with the Maximoff twins (after Billy finds the reborn Tommy) among others.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="pukunui, post: 9638634, member: 54629"] I'm now a good chunk of the way through OG Daredevil S3. I should wait till I'm finished, but right now I would rate the seasons thusly: Season 1 Season 3 Season 4 (aka "Born Again") Season 2 I think the show works best when it focuses on the dynamic between Kingpin and Daredevil. Season 2 suffered from the fact that Kingpin was mostly missing. The Punisher arc was good, but I didn't enjoy the Elektra / Hand vs Chaste war arc much. I'm glad that "Born Again" has maintained the focus on Kingpin vs Daredevil, but it still felt kind of disjointed - probably due to the change in showrunners and reshoots and such. Also, Karen is one of the best characters on the show, so in retrospect, I think "Born Again" suffered from not having her be in most of it. (I'm less sold on Foggy. Sorry.) I think it goes with the cartoonish gore. In the Netflix Punisher series, Frank can't speak after Rawlins beats him to a pulp. On the subject of the credits scene: I wonder if it is setting up the upcoming 1-hour Punisher "special presentation" (like [I]Werewolf by Night[/I]) or the next season of Daredevil. Anyone know which is meant to come out first? Why would they be on the west coast? When did that happen? I don't think we've seen either of them since Kamala showed up at Kate's apartment in NYC during the credits scene at the end of [I]The Marvels[/I]. Of the originals, Thor and Hulk are still around. As of [I]Brave New World[/I], Sam (as Captain America) is rebuilding the Avengers team with the new Falcon as his first recruit. Avengers-adjacent heroes like Ant-Man are still around as well. Clint is still alive, and it's unclear whether he has officially retired and/or passed the Hawkeye moniker on to Kate yet. We also have Kamala actively working to start up a Young Avengers team, most likely with Kate as her first recruit. I'm guessing she'll end up with the Maximoff twins (after Billy finds the reborn Tommy) among others. [/QUOTE]
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