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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9643400" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>No, that's not the issue.</p><p></p><p>The issue is, as frankly any artist who has worked with that kind of paint knows, that the contours of the paint DO NOT match up with the shape of the image.</p><p></p><p>This was obvious even in the TV show - you could see that the way the paint was piled/layered/contoured in places absolutely did not match up with the shape of the image! This is absolutely normal!</p><p></p><p>So whilst it might be plausible for him to detect a charcoal or pencil drawing with "super-touch" (as there the marks and grooves will match up quite well with the actual image), or a very simple child's painting directly on to paper/canvas (with the paper acting as white space, rather than being completely covered), it would absolutely not, remotely be possible for him to read oil painting or most acrylic paintings that way.</p><p></p><p>I thought it was kind of stupid myself, because why not make it a charcoal drawing, which he could read with super-touch? Instead they chose to make it what looked like oil paint (possibly acrylic but I don't think so), and make it so it was very lumpy but NOT in the shape of the actual image!</p><p></p><p>So that just absolutely doesn't work. Whether it's a failure on the imagination of the old showrunner, the new showrunner, or just a failure of the props department, I can't say. But it's a failure.</p><p></p><p></p><p>No, see above. I'm a classically trained fine artist and I have a lot of experience with this.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah in both cases it was just weird/dumb, like they'd forgotten how his powers worked, or just hadn't thought them through, and were treating him as if he were sighted but merely achromatic or something.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Same.</p><p></p><p>I think the issue is, it was made as an MCU series, Disney got people to watch it, realized they'd screwed up bigtime, fired the showrunner, hired an entirely new and different showrunner, and got him to do massive reshoots (including Foggy and Karen being involved at all!), but from that showrunner has said, it <em>seems like</em> the majority of the footage (or perhaps just the more expensive scenes? Unclear) is still from the pre-reshoots version (I daresay the entire "bank robbery" episode was a basically unaltered look at what the MCU version was like).</p><p></p><p>Hopefully this means we could see a very large improvement in S2, if it's made as "actually a Daredevil series", rather than MCU-ized version.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9643400, member: 18"] No, that's not the issue. The issue is, as frankly any artist who has worked with that kind of paint knows, that the contours of the paint DO NOT match up with the shape of the image. This was obvious even in the TV show - you could see that the way the paint was piled/layered/contoured in places absolutely did not match up with the shape of the image! This is absolutely normal! So whilst it might be plausible for him to detect a charcoal or pencil drawing with "super-touch" (as there the marks and grooves will match up quite well with the actual image), or a very simple child's painting directly on to paper/canvas (with the paper acting as white space, rather than being completely covered), it would absolutely not, remotely be possible for him to read oil painting or most acrylic paintings that way. I thought it was kind of stupid myself, because why not make it a charcoal drawing, which he could read with super-touch? Instead they chose to make it what looked like oil paint (possibly acrylic but I don't think so), and make it so it was very lumpy but NOT in the shape of the actual image! So that just absolutely doesn't work. Whether it's a failure on the imagination of the old showrunner, the new showrunner, or just a failure of the props department, I can't say. But it's a failure. No, see above. I'm a classically trained fine artist and I have a lot of experience with this. Yeah in both cases it was just weird/dumb, like they'd forgotten how his powers worked, or just hadn't thought them through, and were treating him as if he were sighted but merely achromatic or something. Same. I think the issue is, it was made as an MCU series, Disney got people to watch it, realized they'd screwed up bigtime, fired the showrunner, hired an entirely new and different showrunner, and got him to do massive reshoots (including Foggy and Karen being involved at all!), but from that showrunner has said, it [I]seems like[/I] the majority of the footage (or perhaps just the more expensive scenes? Unclear) is still from the pre-reshoots version (I daresay the entire "bank robbery" episode was a basically unaltered look at what the MCU version was like). Hopefully this means we could see a very large improvement in S2, if it's made as "actually a Daredevil series", rather than MCU-ized version. [/QUOTE]
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