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<blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 9647125" data-attributes="member: 18"><p>The problem is B is<em> seemingly</em> not true.</p><p></p><p>Or if it is true, the superhuman sense isn't actually just "super-sensitive touch", it's some far wilder and more interesting.</p><p></p><p>But B not being true is why this was so jarring to anyone who knows what the textures of oil painting are actually like (and the sheer amounts of paint they can have on them). Sorry I don't want to re-litigate the actual point, I get that we disagree and in the comics he does this, but talking specifically about A & B here, B is just not true for me unless it's far, far more than just extremely sensitive touch. And given how many outright errors and blunders in the writing and direction there have been in this series of Daredevil, it seems easier to me to see this as another one of those rather than an intended "even fancier" superpower.</p><p></p><p>Whereas something like most mutant powers, you're absolutely right! I can't ever argue with Spidey's Spider-Sense, for example, because who the hell knows how that works? It is an actual psychic power (i.e. short-term but vague precognition)? Is it just a subconscious melding of his super-human senses? Is it the Spider-Goddess sending him a divine warning? Some kind of Spider-Force? I think it's been all of these things in the comics. Hell it's probably something else right now. That's a much more strange ability.</p><p></p><p></p><p>What I think is striking to me is that some shows and some writers tend to be much better "across the board" at these things. Like, they'll just manage to roundly avoid major issues, because the showrunner/writers are thoughtful enough that instead of making up dumb bollocks with computers or law or whatever, they elide it or reconfigure it. I.e. we don't see what exactly is going on, or this is expressly something that doesn't work in a normal way (rather than being an extreme version of a normal thing). Whereas others just blunder blunder blunder.</p><p></p><p>C.f. the infamous One Keyboard Two Idiots scene from NCIS:</p><p></p><p>[MEDIA=youtube]sMamS8sf0Oo[/MEDIA]</p><p></p><p></p><p>Chriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiist. Even the entirely fictional angelic monstrosity-involving hacking sequence in Neon Genesis Evangelion is more realistic/grounded than that (like, that's kind of how some very nasty cyberattacks work). The level of "I've never used a computer in my life" that must have been going on for them both to be using the same keyboard and monitor... (This is presuming the scene wasn't intended as parody/satire, but my understanding is that it was not.). So at least it's not that bad!</p><p></p><p>(Also the writing is just hilariously bad there "He or she" - who talks like that! Humans say "they", scriptwriter!)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ruin Explorer, post: 9647125, member: 18"] The problem is B is[I] seemingly[/I] not true. Or if it is true, the superhuman sense isn't actually just "super-sensitive touch", it's some far wilder and more interesting. But B not being true is why this was so jarring to anyone who knows what the textures of oil painting are actually like (and the sheer amounts of paint they can have on them). Sorry I don't want to re-litigate the actual point, I get that we disagree and in the comics he does this, but talking specifically about A & B here, B is just not true for me unless it's far, far more than just extremely sensitive touch. And given how many outright errors and blunders in the writing and direction there have been in this series of Daredevil, it seems easier to me to see this as another one of those rather than an intended "even fancier" superpower. Whereas something like most mutant powers, you're absolutely right! I can't ever argue with Spidey's Spider-Sense, for example, because who the hell knows how that works? It is an actual psychic power (i.e. short-term but vague precognition)? Is it just a subconscious melding of his super-human senses? Is it the Spider-Goddess sending him a divine warning? Some kind of Spider-Force? I think it's been all of these things in the comics. Hell it's probably something else right now. That's a much more strange ability. What I think is striking to me is that some shows and some writers tend to be much better "across the board" at these things. Like, they'll just manage to roundly avoid major issues, because the showrunner/writers are thoughtful enough that instead of making up dumb bollocks with computers or law or whatever, they elide it or reconfigure it. I.e. we don't see what exactly is going on, or this is expressly something that doesn't work in a normal way (rather than being an extreme version of a normal thing). Whereas others just blunder blunder blunder. C.f. the infamous One Keyboard Two Idiots scene from NCIS: [MEDIA=youtube]sMamS8sf0Oo[/MEDIA] Chriiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiist. Even the entirely fictional angelic monstrosity-involving hacking sequence in Neon Genesis Evangelion is more realistic/grounded than that (like, that's kind of how some very nasty cyberattacks work). The level of "I've never used a computer in my life" that must have been going on for them both to be using the same keyboard and monitor... (This is presuming the scene wasn't intended as parody/satire, but my understanding is that it was not.). So at least it's not that bad! (Also the writing is just hilariously bad there "He or she" - who talks like that! Humans say "they", scriptwriter!) [/QUOTE]
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