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<blockquote data-quote="Kai Lord" data-source="post: 1347183" data-attributes="member: 3570"><p>I recently watched Daredevil again and was once again reminded of how much I actually like this movie. Even with some extremely cringe inducing moments (the teeter totter sequence, some of Kingpin and Bulls-eye's dialogue with each other) and apparent internal inconsistencies I have a great affinity for the end result. A true case of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts.</p><p></p><p>In fact, behind Spider-Man and the first Superman, Daredevil is my favorite super hero movie. I rank it above such high profile productions as the first two Batman films, the X-Men movies, and also The Hulk, and if DD had been more consistent it would be #1.</p><p></p><p>I find DD to be the most relatable, insofar that a character with super powers can be related to. He lives in a world more "real" than other comic book films, and its compelling that his handicap exists every second of every day, in normal life and fighting the bad guys. Even great sensitivity afforded by his handicap can also literally be his greatest weakness.</p><p></p><p>Sure he can performs all kinds of great moves in the dark, and gravity defying acrobatics to boot, but if a subway cruises by not only is he blind but now he's effectively deaf and crippled too. Nothing's ever just smooth straight across the board for him. What a great character. </p><p></p><p>As for the movie's presentation, I really like that our introduction to the character is a bruised and bloody man on the brink of death, so weakened that almost the entire film after is the story of his life as if flashes before his eyes. The most <em>brilliant</em> presentation of an "origin" story for a comic character in a movie, bar none.</p><p></p><p>I like the cinematography and the editing, beginning with the flashes of his fight with Elektra as the camera pans up the front of the church, to the deleting of Murdock's story reflected in Joe Pantoliono's glasses.</p><p></p><p>I like that after every fight Murdock nurses bloody wounds, spits out the occasional tooth, then hobbles into a sensory deprivation tank. Unlike any other super hero, the film presents him as a guy with a future shelf life of maybe five to seven years before he'll be permanently bound to a wheelchair.</p><p></p><p>I love Foggy Nelson's character as portrayed by Jon Favreau. A fantastic link between the audience and this fantasy world of DD and company.</p><p></p><p>I love all the little touches that bring these super characters into a world we're familiar with. All the "blind man" ticks of Affleck's character, having special containers for different dollar bills, being shy about showing his uncovered eyes. And when Bulls-eye is called, instead of a dramatic scene of an airplane landing on the runway and then a cut to him walking through the terminal in slow motion we instead get to see that, like everyone else, he dreads the confined irritations of riding in coach. With a homicidal twist appropriate for the character. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I love the mutual badassedness of the first DD/Bullseye encounter. The first moment in either of their lives they've truly met an equal adversary, with each of them permanently damaging something dear to the other (Bullseye's perfect accuracy ratio, and Murdock's beloved's hope.)</p><p></p><p>There are other things as well, but this was a heavily criticized film that I'm quite enamored with. I had originally ranked the Hulk much higher, but after several viewings no longer feel that it captures the essence of a Marvel comic. The characters aren't very charismatic and I don't detect a real love for the source material.</p><p></p><p>But as much as the Hulk was maligned by critics and many fans, perhaps some of you appreciate it as much as I do Daredevil.</p><p></p><p>What do you like about these two films, or one in particular? Or where did they go wrong?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Kai Lord, post: 1347183, member: 3570"] I recently watched Daredevil again and was once again reminded of how much I actually like this movie. Even with some extremely cringe inducing moments (the teeter totter sequence, some of Kingpin and Bulls-eye's dialogue with each other) and apparent internal inconsistencies I have a great affinity for the end result. A true case of the whole being greater than the sum of its parts. In fact, behind Spider-Man and the first Superman, Daredevil is my favorite super hero movie. I rank it above such high profile productions as the first two Batman films, the X-Men movies, and also The Hulk, and if DD had been more consistent it would be #1. I find DD to be the most relatable, insofar that a character with super powers can be related to. He lives in a world more "real" than other comic book films, and its compelling that his handicap exists every second of every day, in normal life and fighting the bad guys. Even great sensitivity afforded by his handicap can also literally be his greatest weakness. Sure he can performs all kinds of great moves in the dark, and gravity defying acrobatics to boot, but if a subway cruises by not only is he blind but now he's effectively deaf and crippled too. Nothing's ever just smooth straight across the board for him. What a great character. As for the movie's presentation, I really like that our introduction to the character is a bruised and bloody man on the brink of death, so weakened that almost the entire film after is the story of his life as if flashes before his eyes. The most [i]brilliant[/i] presentation of an "origin" story for a comic character in a movie, bar none. I like the cinematography and the editing, beginning with the flashes of his fight with Elektra as the camera pans up the front of the church, to the deleting of Murdock's story reflected in Joe Pantoliono's glasses. I like that after every fight Murdock nurses bloody wounds, spits out the occasional tooth, then hobbles into a sensory deprivation tank. Unlike any other super hero, the film presents him as a guy with a future shelf life of maybe five to seven years before he'll be permanently bound to a wheelchair. I love Foggy Nelson's character as portrayed by Jon Favreau. A fantastic link between the audience and this fantasy world of DD and company. I love all the little touches that bring these super characters into a world we're familiar with. All the "blind man" ticks of Affleck's character, having special containers for different dollar bills, being shy about showing his uncovered eyes. And when Bulls-eye is called, instead of a dramatic scene of an airplane landing on the runway and then a cut to him walking through the terminal in slow motion we instead get to see that, like everyone else, he dreads the confined irritations of riding in coach. With a homicidal twist appropriate for the character. ;) I love the mutual badassedness of the first DD/Bullseye encounter. The first moment in either of their lives they've truly met an equal adversary, with each of them permanently damaging something dear to the other (Bullseye's perfect accuracy ratio, and Murdock's beloved's hope.) There are other things as well, but this was a heavily criticized film that I'm quite enamored with. I had originally ranked the Hulk much higher, but after several viewings no longer feel that it captures the essence of a Marvel comic. The characters aren't very charismatic and I don't detect a real love for the source material. But as much as the Hulk was maligned by critics and many fans, perhaps some of you appreciate it as much as I do Daredevil. What do you like about these two films, or one in particular? Or where did they go wrong? [/QUOTE]
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