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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Eosin the Red" data-source="post: 128103" data-attributes="member: 168">Greetings SHARK!I would take a look at the classes in WOT (or over on the Middle Eath d20 site hosted by Morrus). These give good non-magical variants of classes.I would do away with the Bard, Sorc, Wiz.I would change the title of clerics to Avatars - and have them be the embodiment of the prayers of the faithful. The Avatar's power would relate directly to the piety of the local laity. Most clerics would be experts, without divine power.There would be one order of Paladins (but different types within the order) - waiting for the birth of the promised one.I would use the Druid and add some musical ability ala the Gleeman in WOT.If using a British theme, you could allow Mages (any set of rules) but make them the decendants of lost Alantis. Ditch the items list with one more compatible with darker times. No plate armor. Lots of mail. Most peasants would be restricted away from the weapons of nobility.I like the rarity of magic (your tastes may differ here) that is inherent in WOT. High magic density does not a dark ages make.</blockquote>