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<blockquote data-quote="yennico" data-source="post: 2226790" data-attributes="member: 11978">Here are my suggestions to tone this class downIf I read the name dark druid I think about an evil druid or a druid with the blighter prc.Servant of nature demon or worshippers of darkness and corruption sounds like a cleric to me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />This sounds like an evil multiclass druid: a druid/cleric or a single class cleric with animal and plant domain. Do this build really need a new class or can it build as a prc?You reduce the hit dice, the bab and the domain spells for a full access to divine spells. That is not a fair trade. A normal cleric starts with two domains and does not get any further.Drop this. Why do you think a dark druid needs arcane spells?No. The dark druid has to worship a diety which has the domains plant and animal. The dark druid has to take at level 1 two domians. One of this domains has to be either plant or animal.When does a dark druid gets this abilities? A druid can not be lawful evil. He can only be lawful neutral.A druid can not be chaotic.&nbsp;As a druid the dark druid has to be neutral evilAny evil god ? That is not good. A dark druid has to worship a god with the domains plant and animal.Spell focus (Evil) for free. No.Drop all spell-like abilities.Hd: d6Bab: as clericSaves: as clericskill points: as cleric.class skills: combined list of cleric and druid.Level Special1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Rebuke Undeads, nature sense, 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Animal companion, wild empathy3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Woodland stride56&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Trackless step78&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Resist nature’s lure910&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Wild shape (1/day)1112&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Wild shape (2/day)1314&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Wild shape (3/day)1516&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Wild shape (Large)1718&nbsp; &nbsp; Venom immunity&nbsp; &nbsp; 1920&nbsp;&nbsp; Wild shape (4/day)divine spells from druid an cleric[CODE]Level&nbsp; 0&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 7&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 8&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 91st&nbsp; &nbsp; 2&nbsp; &nbsp; 2nd&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3rd&nbsp; &nbsp; 3&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4th&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5th&nbsp; &nbsp; 4&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6th&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 7th&nbsp; &nbsp; 5&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+19th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 10th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 11th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 13th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 14th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 15th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 16th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 17th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 18th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 1+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 19th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 3+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 20th&nbsp; &nbsp; 6&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 5+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 4+1&nbsp; &nbsp; 2+1[/CODE]</blockquote>

[QUOTE="yennico, post: 2226790, member: 11978"] Here are my suggestions to tone this class down If I read the name dark druid I think about an evil druid or a druid with the blighter prc. Servant of nature demon or worshippers of darkness and corruption sounds like a cleric to me :) This sounds like an evil multiclass druid: a druid/cleric or a single class cleric with animal and plant domain. Do this build really need a new class or can it build as a prc? You reduce the hit dice, the bab and the domain spells for a full access to divine spells. That is not a fair trade. A normal cleric starts with two domains and does not get any further. Drop this. Why do you think a dark druid needs arcane spells? No. The dark druid has to worship a diety which has the domains plant and animal. The dark druid has to take at level 1 two domians. One of this domains has to be either plant or animal. When does a dark druid gets this abilities? A druid can not be lawful evil. He can only be lawful neutral. A druid can not be chaotic. As a druid the dark druid has to be neutral evil Any evil god ? That is not good. A dark druid has to worship a god with the domains plant and animal. Spell focus (Evil) for free. No. Drop all spell-like abilities. Hd: d6 Bab: as cleric Saves: as cleric skill points: as cleric. class skills: combined list of cleric and druid. Level Special 1 Rebuke Undeads, nature sense, 2 Animal companion, wild empathy 3 4 Woodland stride 5 6 Trackless step 7 8 Resist nature’s lure 9 10 Wild shape (1/day) 11 12 Wild shape (2/day) 13 14 Wild shape (3/day) 15 16 Wild shape (Large) 17 18 Venom immunity 19 20 Wild shape (4/day) divine spells from druid an cleric [CODE] Level 0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 1st 2 2nd 3 1+1 3rd 3 2+1 4th 4 2+1 1+1 5th 4 3+1 2+1 6th 5 3+1 2+1 1+1 7th 5 4+1 3+1 2+1 8th 6 4+1 3+1 2+1 1+1 9th 6 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 10th 6 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 1+1 11th 6 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 12th 6 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 1+1 13th 6 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 14th 6 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 1+1 15th 6 5+1 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 16th 6 5+1 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 1+1 17th 6 5+1 5+1 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 18th 6 5+1 5+1 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 1+1 19th 6 5+1 5+1 5+1 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 3+1 2+1 20th 6 5+1 5+1 5+1 5+1 5+1 4+1 4+1 4+1 2+1 [/CODE] [/QUOTE]

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