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<blockquote data-quote="William Ronald" data-source="post: 381891" data-attributes="member: 426"><p>Hi, Edena:</p><p></p><p>I thought an old high school group of mind was a bit out there, but yours was much more extreme. (The campaign began normally enough, but the DM got Monty Haul -- for those he liked. Suffice it to say, I moved on to a better campaign.) Suffice it to say, the favored ones were powerful but were not into evil characters. (I think they believed Chaotic Neutral let you get away with everything.) </p><p></p><p>There was some character infighting, but nothing on the scale you described.</p><p></p><p>I tend to think of Dark Fantasy as a combination of fantasy and horror. Some of Lovecraft's stories, such as "Polaris" and "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath" and much of Moorcock's works can be categorized as dark fantasy. The characters in the campaign you described were anything but heroic.</p><p></p><p>The group you described seem to be more about seeking power without earning it and playing out some personal fantasies that make me wonder if any of them ever sought psychiatric help. They must have had an indulgent DM. </p><p></p><p>To me, power has to be earned to have any meaning. I think that the players in your youth were more about obtaining power, and spreading mayhem. My earliest campaign experiences were mostly dungeon crawls, and epic fantasy. I do not think the problems you experienced were so much the system, as the individuals. Role playing is an experience much like music. Depending on who is playing, you can have something wonderful or horrid. </p><p></p><p>I did like your parody of Dark Fantasy paragraphs. I have my own built in immunity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="William Ronald, post: 381891, member: 426"] Hi, Edena: I thought an old high school group of mind was a bit out there, but yours was much more extreme. (The campaign began normally enough, but the DM got Monty Haul -- for those he liked. Suffice it to say, I moved on to a better campaign.) Suffice it to say, the favored ones were powerful but were not into evil characters. (I think they believed Chaotic Neutral let you get away with everything.) There was some character infighting, but nothing on the scale you described. I tend to think of Dark Fantasy as a combination of fantasy and horror. Some of Lovecraft's stories, such as "Polaris" and "The Dream Quest of Unknown Kadath" and much of Moorcock's works can be categorized as dark fantasy. The characters in the campaign you described were anything but heroic. The group you described seem to be more about seeking power without earning it and playing out some personal fantasies that make me wonder if any of them ever sought psychiatric help. They must have had an indulgent DM. To me, power has to be earned to have any meaning. I think that the players in your youth were more about obtaining power, and spreading mayhem. My earliest campaign experiences were mostly dungeon crawls, and epic fantasy. I do not think the problems you experienced were so much the system, as the individuals. Role playing is an experience much like music. Depending on who is playing, you can have something wonderful or horrid. I did like your parody of Dark Fantasy paragraphs. I have my own built in immunity. [/QUOTE]
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