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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 359911" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>Uh huh. I might surprise you with how much I've looked into this topic.</p><p></p><p></p><p>And yes, I am aware of that error. But, all figments can produce light. For example:</p><p></p><p>Dancing Lights</p><p>Illusion (Figment)</p><p>Depending on the version selected, the character creates up to four lights that resemble lanterns or torches (and cast that amount of light)</p><p></p><p>Granted, Mirror Image and other <em>Image</em> spells <strong>typically</strong> reflect light as opposed to producing it.</p><p></p><p>But, some of them can generate Sound (sound is a real effect). If they can generate Sound, they can generate Light. If they can generate Thermal (thermal is a real effect), they can generate Light, etc.</p><p></p><p>For example, if your Wizard has a Light spell on him when he casts Mirror Image, <strong>all</strong> of the images are illuminated as well. If this were not the case, then you could figure out that some of the images were not in the center point of the spell and hence were not valid. Since the spell does not allow this, it must generate light in this case.</p><p></p><p>Another example of this is a Wizard with Produce Flame and Mirror Image. The Mirror Image spell must reproduce the glow of the flame in his hand, otherwise the Mirror Image spell would not prevent someone from telling which image did not have a glowing flame. Ditto for Fire Shield and Mirror Image. Ditto for carrying a candle with Mirror Image.</p><p></p><p>Ditto for Silent Image, Minor Image, Major Image, etc.</p><p></p><p>This is just an obvious mistake in the books. And, for people who rarely play illusions, it is a mistake that is easy to make based on the figment description.</p><p></p><p>Now, the effect is not powerful enough to counter a Darkness spell, but it is powerful enough to illuminate a small area. And as DM, since it does not state how powerful the "real effects" can actually be in figments, you have to decide. Can a Major Image be as loud as a roaring Lion? Can a Major Image light up as much as a bonfire?</p><p></p><p>Quite frankly, what good is a Major Image of a bonfire which gives off heat and sound, but not light?</p><p></p><p>Common sense has to apply here when a phrase in the book is obviously incorrect and even ignored by a spell also written in the book (i.e. Dancing Lights).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 359911, member: 2011"] Uh huh. I might surprise you with how much I've looked into this topic. And yes, I am aware of that error. But, all figments can produce light. For example: Dancing Lights Illusion (Figment) Depending on the version selected, the character creates up to four lights that resemble lanterns or torches (and cast that amount of light) Granted, Mirror Image and other [i]Image[/i] spells [b]typically[/b] reflect light as opposed to producing it. But, some of them can generate Sound (sound is a real effect). If they can generate Sound, they can generate Light. If they can generate Thermal (thermal is a real effect), they can generate Light, etc. For example, if your Wizard has a Light spell on him when he casts Mirror Image, [b]all[/b] of the images are illuminated as well. If this were not the case, then you could figure out that some of the images were not in the center point of the spell and hence were not valid. Since the spell does not allow this, it must generate light in this case. Another example of this is a Wizard with Produce Flame and Mirror Image. The Mirror Image spell must reproduce the glow of the flame in his hand, otherwise the Mirror Image spell would not prevent someone from telling which image did not have a glowing flame. Ditto for Fire Shield and Mirror Image. Ditto for carrying a candle with Mirror Image. Ditto for Silent Image, Minor Image, Major Image, etc. This is just an obvious mistake in the books. And, for people who rarely play illusions, it is a mistake that is easy to make based on the figment description. Now, the effect is not powerful enough to counter a Darkness spell, but it is powerful enough to illuminate a small area. And as DM, since it does not state how powerful the "real effects" can actually be in figments, you have to decide. Can a Major Image be as loud as a roaring Lion? Can a Major Image light up as much as a bonfire? Quite frankly, what good is a Major Image of a bonfire which gives off heat and sound, but not light? Common sense has to apply here when a phrase in the book is obviously incorrect and even ignored by a spell also written in the book (i.e. Dancing Lights). [/QUOTE]
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