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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 3696436" data-attributes="member: 710">I think it is wrong to base giving out dark side points out only because of a specific game mechanic used. He could have used a light saber to kill the mooks, or shot them down. If these would have warranted dark side points, okay, give them out. If not, force slam shouldn't either.The point of the dark side (from a literary point of view) is to make clear how easy it can be to turn evil, and how dangerous it is. The Force makes the path to evil easier, because it gives you power beyond that of others. But using the force to kill someone isn't worse then using a blaster to kill someone, or persuade someone else to kill for you. Tthat you wanted to kill someone because that was the easiest thing to achieve your goals, that's what makes it evil. (If it was the _only_ way to achieve your goal, it depends on what your goal was - if you needed to avoid innocents dying, it might not be evil, possible even good. If you did it to defend yourself, it was probably not evil, but it also wasn't good)You make a good point here, but Dark Side Points are not the equivalent of a CoC sanity score.Feeling the pain of others while killing them is only dark-side point worthy if you don't care. A Jedi is forced to kill someone and feels honestly bad about it (not that it will comfort the victim and his friends, but the Jedi knows that, too). A Dark Sider wouldn't care. When Palpatine tried to get Luke to the dark side, he didn't tempt him to use his jedi powers against him or Vader, he tempted him to kill a (seemingly) helpless foe (Palpatine himself).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 3696436, member: 710"] I think it is wrong to base giving out dark side points out only because of a specific game mechanic used. He could have used a light saber to kill the mooks, or shot them down. If these would have warranted dark side points, okay, give them out. If not, force slam shouldn't either. The point of the dark side (from a literary point of view) is to make clear how easy it can be to turn evil, and how dangerous it is. The Force makes the path to evil easier, because it gives you power beyond that of others. But using the force to kill someone isn't worse then using a blaster to kill someone, or persuade someone else to kill for you. Tthat you wanted to kill someone because that was the easiest thing to achieve your goals, that's what makes it evil. (If it was the _only_ way to achieve your goal, it depends on what your goal was - if you needed to avoid innocents dying, it might not be evil, possible even good. If you did it to defend yourself, it was probably not evil, but it also wasn't good) You make a good point here, but Dark Side Points are not the equivalent of a CoC sanity score. Feeling the pain of others while killing them is only dark-side point worthy if you don't care. A Jedi is forced to kill someone and feels honestly bad about it (not that it will comfort the victim and his friends, but the Jedi knows that, too). A Dark Sider wouldn't care. When Palpatine tried to get Luke to the dark side, he didn't tempt him to use his jedi powers against him or Vader, he tempted him to kill a (seemingly) helpless foe (Palpatine himself). [/QUOTE]

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