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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Remathilis" data-source="post: 9534199" data-attributes="member: 7635">Here's is where the two competing visions of Dark Sun clash. The 4e version of Dark Sun could get rid of the Divine Power Source because it had so many options to replace it with. Martial, Arcane, Psionic and Primal could all step into the void Divine left open. But that clashes with 2e vision of Dark Sun where Arcane should also be limited and costly. You can't have a bard replace a cleric because a bard shouldn't have access to magic in 2e's view. That is a major issue when deciding what classes should feature because the two are at odds. If you compromise, you either get a Dark Sun with very limited options or you open it up to nearly evening. It would be less of an issue if 5e didn't ignore Martial and Psionic based classes that could fill those roles, but 5e has not seen fit to do so. So you end up with several very different camps of people who think certain classes don't belong. And 5e does not have enough classes to make up for that. I don't know if a Dark Sun where the only options are fighter, barbarian, ranger, rogue, druid and wizard would sell.</blockquote>