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<blockquote data-quote="Rainbow Scissors" data-source="post: 9740563" data-attributes="member: 7052820"><p>Maybe... sorta...</p><p></p><p>The idea you propose sounds like it could be a fun game and a very reward experience.</p><p></p><p>I think, for me, even with the "problematic" warts of the setting...</p><p>In my mind, if I am going to play Dark Sun, I think I want some of the harshness that comes with it.</p><p>Less Star Wars and more Fallout as a Fabio novel cover, Django, Sword & Sandal, and the Outlaw Josey Wales.</p><p></p><p>I'm okay with some of the evil things being presented as somewhat neutral on a setting book because I am reading a setting book to understand what about a setting makes it different than other settings. I want to know the state of things as they are and how they are presented. I feel that a setting book which spends too much time apologizing for showing me the setting is a book that is telling me that I should not buy it. I feel that it would be a mental disconnect for me to spend money on a setting and to then have the setting guilt trip me for wanting to play the setting. </p><p></p><p>While I find the idea of a Hopepunk setting intriguing, and I can even see that being a fun way to play Dark Sun, it is not what I would want out of Dark Sun. I accept that settings change. But, I think there is a difference between changing small details and changing the core design philosophy of an established setting.</p><p></p><p>Realistically, I am one person. I imagine there are many people who would simply buy whatever is presented as "Dark Sun," as long as it has the D&D logo on it. If that's what was presented to me at a table, I would likely just be happy to play D&D. Even so, I hope there is some spiritual successor to a harsher Dark Sun in the future, even if it isn't called Dark Sun.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rainbow Scissors, post: 9740563, member: 7052820"] Maybe... sorta... The idea you propose sounds like it could be a fun game and a very reward experience. I think, for me, even with the "problematic" warts of the setting... In my mind, if I am going to play Dark Sun, I think I want some of the harshness that comes with it. Less Star Wars and more Fallout as a Fabio novel cover, Django, Sword & Sandal, and the Outlaw Josey Wales. I'm okay with some of the evil things being presented as somewhat neutral on a setting book because I am reading a setting book to understand what about a setting makes it different than other settings. I want to know the state of things as they are and how they are presented. I feel that a setting book which spends too much time apologizing for showing me the setting is a book that is telling me that I should not buy it. I feel that it would be a mental disconnect for me to spend money on a setting and to then have the setting guilt trip me for wanting to play the setting. While I find the idea of a Hopepunk setting intriguing, and I can even see that being a fun way to play Dark Sun, it is not what I would want out of Dark Sun. I accept that settings change. But, I think there is a difference between changing small details and changing the core design philosophy of an established setting. Realistically, I am one person. I imagine there are many people who would simply buy whatever is presented as "Dark Sun," as long as it has the D&D logo on it. If that's what was presented to me at a table, I would likely just be happy to play D&D. Even so, I hope there is some spiritual successor to a harsher Dark Sun in the future, even if it isn't called Dark Sun. [/QUOTE]
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