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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Staffan" data-source="post: 1228350" data-attributes="member: 907">I considered that, but I think athas.org did a pretty decent conversion of the bard, actually. I also considered just replacing the spells with level-based poisons, or possibly a poison-creating system (where you'd combine primary and secondary damage with save DC and get a final cost or something like that), but decided it was a bit too much work. The thing is that the 2e gladiator was a warrior that specialized in hand-to-hand combat, and the 2e Dark Sun fighter was a warrior that specialized in large-scale combat (getting abilities with fortifications, leading troops, and so on). I do think that if I create the appropriate feats (one to mimic armor optimization, another for reducing and/or negating non-proficiency penalties, and then a bunch to mimic the large-scale combat abilities of the fighter) I will get pretty close to the Dark Sun gladiators and fighters. I'm pretty sure I mentioned this in the races conversion, or possibly just in the manifesto (OK, that sounds real pretentious, but...). Only elves, humans and half-elves can be defilers, and only those three plus halflings can be preservers (I might allow mul too - it was a bit unclear whether their ability to be considered human for class purposes allowed them to take classes mul couldn't ordinarily get). Dwarves, thri-kreen, half-giants, and their ilk need not apply. That's the only race/class limitation I'll have, though. If a half-giant wants to be a rogue, he's welcome. He'll suck at it, but he can do it.</blockquote>

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