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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 8100762" data-attributes="member: 16814">Okay, but if it's individual people, there have to be quite a lot of them to both still be active after decades and being interested enough to seek out responding to psionics in any numbers that make a difference.  A few, scattered people wouldn't even move the needle -- it would have to be a reasonably sized group -- a non-significant portion of the responders.  What would you expect?  5% of the responders?  10%?  15%? This is the problem with this argument, as I see it.  If these people are, indeed, motivated enough to seek out and vote down psionics they're also not likely to be quiet about it -- a position you seem to agree with.  Even if they skew towards the huge contingent of players that don't go online to talk D&D, they'd still have to show up enough to be clearly noticed in these discussions if there are enough of them to also sway the survey results meaningfully.Now, I can cite my experience, where I've been accused of hating psionics, when at worst I'm ambivalent.  It's true that I wouldn't like a rehash of 2e psionics, but my distaste is no where near enough to answer negatively on a survey -- it's pretty mild.  I did answer the last survey, but in the positive, because I liked the psi-die mechanic.  So, here's a case where people on this board have become convinced that I'm part of the "hates psioncis" crowd but the reality is that I was never, ever a risk to psionics even as I voiced a preference for non-2e psionics and like some of the newer approaches that many in the "pro-psionics" crowd actively stated they were going to downvote for not liking.  I mean, from my point of view, the point of view of an accused anti-psionist, I've seen more downvotes be announced by the supposed pro-psionics crowd than any level of general anti-psionics sentiment.</blockquote>

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