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<blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8947333" data-attributes="member: 6790260"><p>If I could answer "Yes, but..." I would have.</p><p></p><p>Because problematic content <em>can</em> be acceptable if it's evil and opposed...<em>so long as it is executed well</em>.</p><p></p><p>Drow being an evil empire of explicitly black-skinned dominatrices and their conniving male soldiers? Yeah, <em>that's not good</em>. It matters little that drow can be seen as a color-inverted version of elves; the expression is piss-poor and merits correction. Hence why I was happy they've decided to take the route of "the drow <em>that people have met</em> are a crappy culture, but there are several <em>other</em> cultures of drow, and some of them are perfectly fine!" That makes the evil something that isn't tied to skin color, gender, political structure, etc., but rather an elective choice for the people in power in their society, and there is valid room for a rebellion trying to pursue, y'know, <em>any other way</em> that drow societies might already exist.</p><p></p><p>Slavery is, unfortunately, still a thing some humans inflict upon other humans. Being able to talk about it, to explore it as a literary element, is important. Being an <em>apologist</em> for slavery is totally unacceptable, however, so there are limits on what should be done with it. I don't think it is a bad thing to recognize that slavery is an (utterly horrifying) institution that humanity has practiced, to one extent or another, for as long as there have <em>been humans</em>.</p><p></p><p>The critical components are that the story must actually do something <em>worthy</em> and <em>interesting</em> with this darkness. It's very easy to fall into laziness (just see the whole 90s "Dark Age" of comics) with the dark elements of a work.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="EzekielRaiden, post: 8947333, member: 6790260"] If I could answer "Yes, but..." I would have. Because problematic content [I]can[/I] be acceptable if it's evil and opposed...[I]so long as it is executed well[/I]. Drow being an evil empire of explicitly black-skinned dominatrices and their conniving male soldiers? Yeah, [I]that's not good[/I]. It matters little that drow can be seen as a color-inverted version of elves; the expression is piss-poor and merits correction. Hence why I was happy they've decided to take the route of "the drow [I]that people have met[/I] are a crappy culture, but there are several [I]other[/I] cultures of drow, and some of them are perfectly fine!" That makes the evil something that isn't tied to skin color, gender, political structure, etc., but rather an elective choice for the people in power in their society, and there is valid room for a rebellion trying to pursue, y'know, [I]any other way[/I] that drow societies might already exist. Slavery is, unfortunately, still a thing some humans inflict upon other humans. Being able to talk about it, to explore it as a literary element, is important. Being an [I]apologist[/I] for slavery is totally unacceptable, however, so there are limits on what should be done with it. I don't think it is a bad thing to recognize that slavery is an (utterly horrifying) institution that humanity has practiced, to one extent or another, for as long as there have [I]been humans[/I]. The critical components are that the story must actually do something [I]worthy[/I] and [I]interesting[/I] with this darkness. It's very easy to fall into laziness (just see the whole 90s "Dark Age" of comics) with the dark elements of a work. [/QUOTE]
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