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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8950928" data-attributes="member: 23751">How many movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying slavers and slaves?&nbsp; How many movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying abusers and the abused?&nbsp; How many movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying torturers and the tortured?&nbsp; A whole hell of a lot of them.We don't go around demanding that they stop making these movies and tv shows. Hollywood doesn't have problems remaking old movies that have these things in them. Why is that? It's because those movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying the other side as well.&nbsp; They have the heroes trying to free the slaves.&nbsp; They have the heroes trying to bring the abusers and torturers to justice. And because they show that those things are awful and should be opposed, we are okay with it.RPGs are no different.&nbsp; It's okay to remake a setting with slavery as a centerpiece.&nbsp; It's okay for people to roleplay the slavers and/or enslaved.&nbsp; Why? For the same reason it's okay for them to be depicted in movies and tv shows.&nbsp; It's because those things will be opposed and we know that they are awful things.&nbsp; If the players are the ones roleplaying the heroes, the DM will be the one roleplaying the slavers and other bad guys and the opposition will be there.&nbsp; If the players decide that they want to be the bad guys and roleplay the slavers, then the DM will roleplay heroes trying to stop them, and slave revolts against the evil PC overlords.&nbsp; The opposition will be there as well.There will be some small number of games where everyone is just bad and the conflict is bad guys vs. bad guys, but if everyone in the group is on board with that sort of game, it's still okay to do. It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but we don't have to play that way if we don't want to. It's also something that isn't going to be stopped by keeping Dark Sun on the back burner or encouraged by the release of Dark Sun.&nbsp; If [USER=86653]@overgeeked[/USER]'s group wants to play a game like this and they aren't bringing it out into real life, we don't have the right to say that they can't or shouldn't play that way.&nbsp; They are literally hurting no one by doing so.Edit: corrected a typo</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8950928, member: 23751"] How many movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying slavers and slaves? How many movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying abusers and the abused? How many movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying torturers and the tortured? A whole hell of a lot of them. We don't go around demanding that they stop making these movies and tv shows. Hollywood doesn't have problems remaking old movies that have these things in them. Why is that? It's because those movies and tv shows have actors roleplaying the other side as well. They have the heroes trying to free the slaves. They have the heroes trying to bring the abusers and torturers to justice. And because they show that those things are awful and should be opposed, we are okay with it. RPGs are no different. It's okay to remake a setting with slavery as a centerpiece. It's okay for people to roleplay the slavers and/or enslaved. Why? For the same reason it's okay for them to be depicted in movies and tv shows. It's because those things will be opposed and we know that they are awful things. If the players are the ones roleplaying the heroes, the DM will be the one roleplaying the slavers and other bad guys and the opposition will be there. If the players decide that they want to be the bad guys and roleplay the slavers, then the DM will roleplay heroes trying to stop them, and slave revolts against the evil PC overlords. The opposition will be there as well. There will be some small number of games where everyone is just bad and the conflict is bad guys vs. bad guys, but if everyone in the group is on board with that sort of game, it's still okay to do. It's not going to be everyone's cup of tea, but we don't have to play that way if we don't want to. It's also something that isn't going to be stopped by keeping Dark Sun on the back burner or encouraged by the release of Dark Sun. If [USER=86653]@overgeeked[/USER]'s group wants to play a game like this and they aren't bringing it out into real life, we don't have the right to say that they can't or shouldn't play that way. They are literally hurting no one by doing so. Edit: corrected a typo [/QUOTE]

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