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<blockquote data-quote="squibbles" data-source="post: 8385334" data-attributes="member: 6937590"><p>Nice. It seems verisimilitudinous can <a href="https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verisimilitudinous" target="_blank"><em>maybe </em>be correct</a>, but thanks for the pointer. Verisimilar is a lot more elegant.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>The tricky thing about "slave" is that its a loaded word which refers to entirely too many different institutions. Norse thralls are not Athenian slaves, are not Spartan Helots, are not medieval serfs, are not triangular trade chattel slaves--though the institutions all share a <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_resemblance" target="_blank">family resemblance</a> to the point that the term can apply to them. (The <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-74-slavery-part-1-theory/id1035044409?i=1000515592662" target="_blank">Wittenburg</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-75-slavery-in-the-middle-ages-part-ii/id1035044409?i=1000525521842" target="_blank">to</a> <a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-76-slavery-in-the-middle-ages-part-3/id1035044409?i=1000529429036" target="_blank">Westphalia</a> podcast did an excellent series unpacking the historical scholarship on the topic, for those interested. There's a very apropos thought experiment in the third cast about how hopelessly incompetent a southern planter would have been at interacting with thralls in migration era Scandinavia.)</p><p></p><p>Using the term thrall drags in some fraught historical connotations--but that doesn't mean doing so is inherently objectionable.</p><p></p><p><a href="http://talislanta.com/talislanta-library" target="_blank">Talislanta</a> had a species/culture that went by the name "thrall", which took the premise of a people purposively engineered to be unfree warriors and went in a interesting and non-trope-laden direction with it: Ancient sorcerers created them as near genetic duplicates of each other--so, upon liberation, they created a highly regimented but sexually and inter-generationally egalitarian society and invented a complex system of tattoos so that each individual could look unique.</p><p></p><p>In fairness, it seems like Red Dawn is setting up its thrall species as having a mysterious origin (they "hide a world changing secret"). I think it might be too soon to say whether it's in poor taste. They <em><strong>could </strong></em>do something inventive and thoughtful.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="squibbles, post: 8385334, member: 6937590"] Nice. It seems verisimilitudinous can [URL='https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/verisimilitudinous'][I]maybe [/I]be correct[/URL], but thanks for the pointer. Verisimilar is a lot more elegant. The tricky thing about "slave" is that its a loaded word which refers to entirely too many different institutions. Norse thralls are not Athenian slaves, are not Spartan Helots, are not medieval serfs, are not triangular trade chattel slaves--though the institutions all share a [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Family_resemblance']family resemblance[/URL] to the point that the term can apply to them. (The [URL='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-74-slavery-part-1-theory/id1035044409?i=1000515592662']Wittenburg[/URL] [URL='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-75-slavery-in-the-middle-ages-part-ii/id1035044409?i=1000525521842']to[/URL] [URL='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/episode-76-slavery-in-the-middle-ages-part-3/id1035044409?i=1000529429036']Westphalia[/URL] podcast did an excellent series unpacking the historical scholarship on the topic, for those interested. There's a very apropos thought experiment in the third cast about how hopelessly incompetent a southern planter would have been at interacting with thralls in migration era Scandinavia.) Using the term thrall drags in some fraught historical connotations--but that doesn't mean doing so is inherently objectionable. [URL='http://talislanta.com/talislanta-library']Talislanta[/URL] had a species/culture that went by the name "thrall", which took the premise of a people purposively engineered to be unfree warriors and went in a interesting and non-trope-laden direction with it: Ancient sorcerers created them as near genetic duplicates of each other--so, upon liberation, they created a highly regimented but sexually and inter-generationally egalitarian society and invented a complex system of tattoos so that each individual could look unique. In fairness, it seems like Red Dawn is setting up its thrall species as having a mysterious origin (they "hide a world changing secret"). I think it might be too soon to say whether it's in poor taste. They [I][B]could [/B][/I]do something inventive and thoughtful. [/QUOTE]
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