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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Lord Ernie" data-source="post: 4880562" data-attributes="member: 58517">While a young black dragon is certainly beatable, even if hiding constantly in his Cloud of Darkness, it makes for an intensely boring fight. Worse, often enough half of the party has very little effect in such a fight, considering melee and ranged attacks have -5 to hit against it, and they have to make a perception check (vs. a +17 stealth check, which is huge) to even know where he is.We fought one once, with a party of 5, consisting of cleric, wizard, warlock, rogue, and fighter. The wizard was the only one contributing to the majority of the fight (the fighter tried, but seldomly hit). It turned into a battle of attrition, with the warlock and the cleric readying actions, and the wizard trying to enlarged thunderwave it out of the cloud (it didn't help that he never made his save vs. Frightful Presence). After 10 rounds or so of trying this, wearing it down to bloodied, and running low on healing ourselves, we fled (out of boredom as much as out of desire for self-preservation).</blockquote>