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Darkness+Devil's Sight is killing my campaign
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<blockquote data-quote="Shin Okada" data-source="post: 1994121" data-attributes="member: 1956"><p>First of all, Darkness spell (and other related spells) does not create complete darkness anymore. It creates dim (or shadowy) illumination and gives concealment, not the total concealment. So the miss-chance is only 20%. And opponents do not need to use listen check to pinpoint the location of him.</p><p></p><p>It seems to be a good combo. But many spellcasters can get the same miss-chance just by casting blur spell. And in this case, it does not bother his allies who don't have devil's sight. His rogue friend will also hate that warlock, as he cannot make a sneak attack within the area of darkness (unless he also has devil's sight). So darkness + devils sight is, while not bad, not that much a big deal.</p><p></p><p>Regarding counter tactics,</p><p></p><p>Creatures and characters will Blindfight feat will not have much trouble against him. Also, spellcasters have no trouble casting spells on him, unless the caster uses spells with attack rolls.</p><p></p><p>And, darkness is just a 2nd level spell and thus Daylight spell can dispel or counter it. Also, if the area of those two spells overlap, now natural lightsources dominate that area.</p><p></p><p>Anyway, if I were you, I will let him just do it (with 20% miss-chance, of course). He is a fighter type and spending 1 (or 2 if he takes both Devil's sight and Darkness) levels in non-combat class.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Shin Okada, post: 1994121, member: 1956"] First of all, Darkness spell (and other related spells) does not create complete darkness anymore. It creates dim (or shadowy) illumination and gives concealment, not the total concealment. So the miss-chance is only 20%. And opponents do not need to use listen check to pinpoint the location of him. It seems to be a good combo. But many spellcasters can get the same miss-chance just by casting blur spell. And in this case, it does not bother his allies who don't have devil's sight. His rogue friend will also hate that warlock, as he cannot make a sneak attack within the area of darkness (unless he also has devil's sight). So darkness + devils sight is, while not bad, not that much a big deal. Regarding counter tactics, Creatures and characters will Blindfight feat will not have much trouble against him. Also, spellcasters have no trouble casting spells on him, unless the caster uses spells with attack rolls. And, darkness is just a 2nd level spell and thus Daylight spell can dispel or counter it. Also, if the area of those two spells overlap, now natural lightsources dominate that area. Anyway, if I were you, I will let him just do it (with 20% miss-chance, of course). He is a fighter type and spending 1 (or 2 if he takes both Devil's sight and Darkness) levels in non-combat class. [/QUOTE]
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