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<blockquote data-quote="Scion" data-source="post: 1800324" data-attributes="member: 5777">Negating entire characters all at once. Making yourself effecively invisible (no targetting, hard to shoot at, moving into melee with means that no one can see you and you are not going to be fighting very well). Which way exactly is 'out' of the darkness? one doesnt always know, especially when people are moving around.It can also be used as a cheap counterspell. Place it on something and when someone is about to cast a spell pull it out of its bag and toss it next to them, or simply be standing near them. Many spells require line of sight, which has just been blocked. If silence is also placed on it then you pretty much have one dead caster.How much power does a single second level spell need? Not that much!Once again though, we arent talking about some characters having a 'smaller role', it is more about a couple of characters pretty much taking others out of certain parts of the game completely. I posted a few threads up above which talk about some situations like this. Back when this board was all about 3.0 there were quite a few threads talking about what to do with the spell since it was destroying their campaign and making a few players completely worthless. Which makes it even worse than 3.0 harm in some ways.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Scion, post: 1800324, member: 5777"] Negating entire characters all at once. Making yourself effecively invisible (no targetting, hard to shoot at, moving into melee with means that no one can see you and you are not going to be fighting very well). Which way exactly is 'out' of the darkness? one doesnt always know, especially when people are moving around. It can also be used as a cheap counterspell. Place it on something and when someone is about to cast a spell pull it out of its bag and toss it next to them, or simply be standing near them. Many spells require line of sight, which has just been blocked. If silence is also placed on it then you pretty much have one dead caster. How much power does a single second level spell need? Not that much! Once again though, we arent talking about some characters having a 'smaller role', it is more about a couple of characters pretty much taking others out of certain parts of the game completely. I posted a few threads up above which talk about some situations like this. Back when this board was all about 3.0 there were quite a few threads talking about what to do with the spell since it was destroying their campaign and making a few players completely worthless. Which makes it even worse than 3.0 harm in some ways. [/QUOTE]

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