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<blockquote data-quote="teitan" data-source="post: 8698531" data-attributes="member: 3457"><p>Dragonlance never surpassed it. Plus Lorraine Williams intentionally tanked it. This is very well know. They released a string of intentionally satirical and awful products in order to bury Greyhawk. Dragonlance never surpassed Greyhawk just looking at the sales numbers along and FR barely beat it in its lifetime sales when you consider that it’s a lifetime run and Forgotten Realms had not 2 boxed sets but three and the well received FR Adventures and counting the revised 2e box on there. The Greyhawk stats have the original supplement, the Greyhawk box, not the folio, the pretty awful Greyhawk Adventures book that previewed 2e and some articles, and From The Ashes. Not the GH98 material at all, ending with the FtA set. GH did that without supplemental support received by FR. GH did not have the FR series of supplements that followed on, the budget that FR had, it did what it did with adventures and when it was finally given the “FR” treatment it was already obvious that management was intentionally burying it and it was on life support. No novels outside of Gygax’s original Gord novels (and he was gone) and the Jean Rabe novels, no video games, no comic books (DC had two FR series, a Dragonlance and a Spelljammer comic coming out), the adventures still in print and being reprinted that were GH related weren’t given GH trade dress like ToEE and Queen of the Spiders. Greyhawk was popular in spite of not having all the things that Dragonlance and the Realms had to prop it up.</p></blockquote><p></p>

[QUOTE="teitan, post: 8698531, member: 3457"] Dragonlance never surpassed it. Plus Lorraine Williams intentionally tanked it. This is very well know. They released a string of intentionally satirical and awful products in order to bury Greyhawk. Dragonlance never surpassed Greyhawk just looking at the sales numbers along and FR barely beat it in its lifetime sales when you consider that it’s a lifetime run and Forgotten Realms had not 2 boxed sets but three and the well received FR Adventures and counting the revised 2e box on there. The Greyhawk stats have the original supplement, the Greyhawk box, not the folio, the pretty awful Greyhawk Adventures book that previewed 2e and some articles, and From The Ashes. Not the GH98 material at all, ending with the FtA set. GH did that without supplemental support received by FR. GH did not have the FR series of supplements that followed on, the budget that FR had, it did what it did with adventures and when it was finally given the “FR” treatment it was already obvious that management was intentionally burying it and it was on life support. No novels outside of Gygax’s original Gord novels (and he was gone) and the Jean Rabe novels, no video games, no comic books (DC had two FR series, a Dragonlance and a Spelljammer comic coming out), the adventures still in print and being reprinted that were GH related weren’t given GH trade dress like ToEE and Queen of the Spiders. Greyhawk was popular in spite of not having all the things that Dragonlance and the Realms had to prop it up. [/QUOTE]

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