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<blockquote data-quote="Argyle King" data-source="post: 9560566" data-attributes="member: 58416"><p>People with Darkvision are not blind.</p><p></p><p>I would agree that individual perception checks occur if looking at different areas or looking for different things.</p><p></p><p>If two people are specifically aiding each other, that is different.</p><p></p><p>If we're talking specifically D&D (and we are,) the Help action can be taken to aid another character. Help is not defined as only in combat in the version of the PHB I have, and I don't remember it as being combat only in the older 5e PHB (but maybe it was). The 2024 PHB rules glossary defines what Help does both in and out of combat.</p><p></p><p>I posit that the other senses are relevant here because those other details can be information that the Helper communicates to the Perceiver that causes them to look more discerningly. If the Perceiver were blind or absent an ability to see, I would agree that they could not be helped. However, as Darkvision would make seeing something possible, the effort can benefit from Help -with the combination of information from the Perceiver using their eyes and the Helper providing advantageous information.</p><p></p><p>*Edited to fix the results of overzealous autocorrect.</p><p></p><p>*Edit 2: Further thoughts - using extra senses in tandem with Darkvision for a better overall Perception is more relevant after the 2024 PHB because Dwarves (who have Darkvision) now also have the ability to use Tremorsense.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Argyle King, post: 9560566, member: 58416"] People with Darkvision are not blind. I would agree that individual perception checks occur if looking at different areas or looking for different things. If two people are specifically aiding each other, that is different. If we're talking specifically D&D (and we are,) the Help action can be taken to aid another character. Help is not defined as only in combat in the version of the PHB I have, and I don't remember it as being combat only in the older 5e PHB (but maybe it was). The 2024 PHB rules glossary defines what Help does both in and out of combat. I posit that the other senses are relevant here because those other details can be information that the Helper communicates to the Perceiver that causes them to look more discerningly. If the Perceiver were blind or absent an ability to see, I would agree that they could not be helped. However, as Darkvision would make seeing something possible, the effort can benefit from Help -with the combination of information from the Perceiver using their eyes and the Helper providing advantageous information. *Edited to fix the results of overzealous autocorrect. *Edit 2: Further thoughts - using extra senses in tandem with Darkvision for a better overall Perception is more relevant after the 2024 PHB because Dwarves (who have Darkvision) now also have the ability to use Tremorsense. [/QUOTE]
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