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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2235363" data-attributes="member: 2011">Hide in Plain Sight is the ability to use the Hide skill under one specific set of circumstances: out in the open.In order to accomplish this, you must have a shadow.The question comes down to whether the shadow must be there for you to perform the abillity, or if the shadow must be there for an observer to not negate the ability.Both sides on the surface appear to have merit.The problem with Patryn's interpretation is that it ignores what is written about Hide In Plain Sight itself:"Hide in Plain Sight (Su): A shadowdancer can use the Hide skill even while being observed. As long as she is within 10 feet of some sort of shadow, a shadowdancer can hide herself from view in the open without anything to actually hide behind. She cannot, however, hide in her own shadow."The shadowdancer does NOT have to hide in the area of shadow, she merely has to be within 10 feet of it.That would mean that EVERYONE, including humans, elves, and dwarves would see her in full light, not just dwarves and elves.It is not a matter of cover or concealment. They do not come into the picture at all because the character does not have to be within that shadow, just near it. There is no visibility rule that negates this ability. She can use this ability on the brightest of sunny days as long as a shadow is within 10 feet.This is a supernatural ability no different than any other supernatural ability.It gives the character the ability to use the Hide skill if there is a shadow within 10 feet, it does not give the character the ability to use the Hide skill only if his opponent sees a shadow.Or put another way, Hide In Plain Sight bypasses both condition #1 and condition #2 that Patryn listed. Cover and concealment are not required for this ability. The only thing required is a shadow within 10 feet that is not the user's shadow.</blockquote>

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