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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 2236412" data-attributes="member: 2011">And, it is still without merit according to RAW. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" /> The requirement is NOT that he be within 10 feet of Shadowy Illumination, it is that he be within 10 feet of a shadow.And for that matter, nobody has yet proven that an Elf or a Dwarf does not see the shadow. They do not see it as Shadowy Illumination (since they can see within that area just fine), but who says that they do NOT see the shadow at all?This gives them the ability to see clearly (although black and white), but it does not state anything about not seeing shades of gray (or lack thereof).The closest approimation we have for comparison is black and white TV where the Dwarf WOULD see shadows as a different shade of gray (gray being differing amounts of black and white).Again, nothing here indicates that they would not see a shadow. In fact, it indicates that they can easily see shadows since their eyes are sensitive to light (and hence, differing colors and shades of light/shadow).You appear to be confusing concealment from shadowy illumination with the mere pre-requisite of a shadow being there. Shadowy Illumination or the lack thereof is irrelevant to HiPS. Only the shadow being there is relevant. He is allowed to hide because the shadow is there.</blockquote>

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