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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Abraxas" data-source="post: 2238235" data-attributes="member: 1266">This only applies to the shadowy illumination portion of the various light spells.  It doesn't apply to an actual shadow. A shadow is the same distance from you wether or not you have LLV.  How well you can see in that shadow depends on wether or not you have LLV, but its location doesn't change.  A sphere with a light spell cast on it floating in a featureless room that measures 50' x 50' x 50' casts no shadows.  It provides an area of bright illumination and an area of shadowy illumination, but without an object besides the shpere in the room no shadows are cast. The vision of creature with LLV is unimpared anywhere in the room, a creature without LLV can see clearly in a 20 ft-radius around the sphere and has impaired vision from 20-ft to the walls.Something else to consider.   Suppose you (with your low light vision), a shadowdancer and a post casting a shadow are in a straight line like so on an otherwise featureless plain. You are invisible so you cast no shadow.Y.....SD.....PssssssssY = youSD = shadowdancerP = postsss = shadowYou are 5 feet away from a shadowdancer and 10 feet away from the post casting the  shadow.  Are you saying the shadow is actually 20 feet away from you and thus 15 feet from the shadowdancer who is then unable to use it to HiPS?With this interpretation you have the wonky situation of a shadowdancer not being able to HiPS if the shadow that is 10 ft away from him is out of sight to you because it is around a corner.  You are confusing being able to see in shadowy illumination with there being no shadows.  Nothing in the description of LLV says shadows don't exist for creatures with LLV.Easy, the eyes of creatures with LLV are more sensitive and they need less illumination to pick up such visual information as detail and color.</blockquote>

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